Comments on: HEAVE-HO OMAR HEAVE-HO http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jason Dagostino http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-28979 Jason Dagostino Tue, 25 Dec 2007 04:24:38 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-28979 omar sucks, the mest suck, they quit and omar has done nothing to shake up his team of aging, listless senioritas. and for all you losers who pay the 20% increase to watch the mutts - good luck. btw, lo duca was jetisoned because he does not speak spanish... 85 wins tops in 08, bet on it.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('28979','Jason Dagostino'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('28979','Jason Dagostino','omar sucks, the mest suck, they quit and omar has done nothing to shake up his team of aging, listless senioritas.\r\nand for all you losers who pay the 20% increase to watch the mutts - good luck.\r\nbtw, lo duca was jetisoned because he does not speak spanish...\r\n85 wins tops in 08, bet on it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> omar sucks, the mest suck, they quit and omar has done nothing to shake up his team of aging, listless senioritas.
and for all you losers who pay the 20% increase to watch the mutts – good luck.
btw, lo duca was jetisoned because he does not speak spanish…
85 wins tops in 08, bet on it.
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]]> By: spo http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-20423 spo Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:50:19 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-20423 The lack of homegrown pitching prospects,once a strength of the organization, has helped define the Mets lack of success over the last decades. Through developing them into starters or trading for quality ball players, they are what often makes a team great. Perhaps, the scouting staff/farm system needs a look at as well.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('20423','spo'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('20423','spo','The lack of homegrown pitching prospects,once a strength of the organization, has helped define the Mets lack of success over the last decades. Through developing them into starters or trading for quality ball players, they are what often makes a team great. Perhaps, the scouting staff\/farm system needs a look at as well.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The lack of homegrown pitching prospects,once a strength of the organization, has helped define the Mets lack of success over the last decades. Through developing them into starters or trading for quality ball players, they are what often makes a team great. Perhaps, the scouting staff/farm system needs a look at as well.
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]]> By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-19958 Eagle Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:47:01 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-19958 Michael I think some of the headlines LoDuca got annoyed the Mets. Too close to scandal, I think. But, yeah, I never loved LoDuca, but I never thought he was a quitter and I can't see anyone better out there. Oh, and Steve, that number you were looking for 1-800-OVRTHRW for Mackey.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19958','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19958','Eagle','Michael\r\n\r\nI think some of the headlines LoDuca got annoyed the Mets. Too close to scandal, I think. \r\n\r\nBut, yeah, I never loved LoDuca, but I never thought he was a quitter and I can\'t see anyone better out there.\r\n\r\nOh, and Steve, that number you were looking for\r\n\r\n1-800-OVRTHRW\r\n\r\nfor Mackey.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Michael

I think some of the headlines LoDuca got annoyed the Mets. Too close to scandal, I think.

But, yeah, I never loved LoDuca, but I never thought he was a quitter and I can’t see anyone better out there.

Oh, and Steve, that number you were looking for

1-800-OVRTHRW

for Mackey.

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]]> By: spo http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-19954 spo Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:04:03 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-19954 No real reason to be pissed at Glavine. He was never the answer for the mets and had a mediocre stint. But, whether you think he was playing negotiation games or not, (I didnt)he gave it his all and handled his business with class. Glad he's not coming back though<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19954','spo'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19954','spo','No real reason to be pissed at Glavine. He was never the answer for the mets and had a mediocre stint. But, whether you think he was playing negotiation games or not,\r\n(I didnt)he gave it his all and handled his business with class. Glad he\'s not coming back though'); return false;">Quote</a></div> No real reason to be pissed at Glavine. He was never the answer for the mets and had a mediocre stint. But, whether you think he was playing negotiation games or not,
(I didnt)he gave it his all and handled his business with class. Glad he’s not coming back though
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]]> By: MichaelN http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-19863 MichaelN Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:40:54 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-19863 I can't back this up 'cause I'm not a journalist nor do I have any inside connections to the team, but what I can piece together from newspaper columns over the last year or so is that the organization, from the Wilpons down to Willie and including Omar, can't stand LoDuca because he's a stand up guy who always speaks his mind to the press. If not for this I'm sure he would have been signed weeks ago.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19863','MichaelN'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19863','MichaelN','I can\'t back this up \'cause I\'m not a journalist nor do I have any inside connections to the team, but what I can piece together from newspaper columns over the last year or so is that the organization, from the Wilpons down to Willie and including Omar, can\'t stand LoDuca because he\'s a stand up guy who always speaks his mind to the press. If not for this I\'m sure he would have been signed weeks ago.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I can’t back this up ’cause I’m not a journalist nor do I have any inside connections to the team, but what I can piece together from newspaper columns over the last year or so is that the organization, from the Wilpons down to Willie and including Omar, can’t stand LoDuca because he’s a stand up guy who always speaks his mind to the press. If not for this I’m sure he would have been signed weeks ago.
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-19666 kranepool Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:22:07 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-19666 I'm worried about the price tag as well for a top pitcher and a catcher I won't mind dealing Heilman, Pelfrey, Humber or even Gomez but if LMilliz is delt that will bother me, I'm not saying he can't be traded but I think he's a top talent and he has tha tbad ass attitide that the Mets need. But if it means getting Santana or even Bedard I'm in<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19666','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19666','kranepool','I\'m worried about the price tag as well for a top pitcher and a catcher I won\'t mind dealing Heilman, Pelfrey, Humber or even Gomez but if LMilliz is delt that will bother me, I\'m not saying he can\'t be traded but I think he\'s a top talent and he has tha tbad ass attitide that the Mets need. But if it means getting Santana or even Bedard I\'m in'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’m worried about the price tag as well for a top pitcher and a catcher I won’t mind dealing Heilman, Pelfrey, Humber or even Gomez but if LMilliz is delt that will bother me, I’m not saying he can’t be traded but I think he’s a top talent and he has tha tbad ass attitide that the Mets need. But if it means getting Santana or even Bedard I’m in
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]]> By: Ferd C http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-19641 Ferd C Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:41:56 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-19641 Hey, Kranepool, tell us how you really feel about Glavine. I won't miss TG for a second. I was hoping (in vain) to feel this way last year and it didn't happen, but I'm happy nevertheless. As for LoDuca, I've been tired of him for a while now. He got way too much credit for his game-handling ability. His bat left a lot to be desired and we all know about his Pennington-like arm. Castillo, with his surgically repaired knee, can only be better and he wasn't exactly bad to begin with. I'm afraid that now the Mets may have to part with more talent than they hoped for to get a decent pitcher and catcher. I doubt there's any other way to get this done. Of course, that's assuming (eek) we have enough to give.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19641','Ferd C'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19641','Ferd C','Hey, Kranepool, tell us how you really feel about Glavine.\r\n\r\nI won\'t miss TG for a second. I was hoping (in vain) to feel this way last year and it didn\'t happen, but I\'m happy nevertheless. As for LoDuca, I\'ve been tired of him for a while now. He got way too much credit for his game-handling ability. His bat left a lot to be desired and we all know about his Pennington-like arm.\r\n\r\nCastillo, with his surgically repaired knee, can only be better and he wasn\'t exactly bad to begin with.\r\n\r\nI\'m afraid that now the Mets may have to part with more talent than they hoped for to get a decent pitcher and catcher. I doubt there\'s any other way to get this done. Of course, that\'s assuming (eek) we have enough to give.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hey, Kranepool, tell us how you really feel about Glavine.

I won’t miss TG for a second. I was hoping (in vain) to feel this way last year and it didn’t happen, but I’m happy nevertheless. As for LoDuca, I’ve been tired of him for a while now. He got way too much credit for his game-handling ability. His bat left a lot to be desired and we all know about his Pennington-like arm.

Castillo, with his surgically repaired knee, can only be better and he wasn’t exactly bad to begin with.

I’m afraid that now the Mets may have to part with more talent than they hoped for to get a decent pitcher and catcher. I doubt there’s any other way to get this done. Of course, that’s assuming (eek) we have enough to give.

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]]> By: Coop http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-19603 Coop Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:00:35 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-19603 Frank from jersey, I am ok with blanton as long as john maine or oh pea are not inclued in discussions. We can get the same stats and production prob out of those two than with one of Blanton. Plus Blanton is just a larger version of Maine. And maine will be a superstar. if I'm omar, I hang the phone up in Beane's ear is any talk starts with him. But I doubt we do any business with Oakland - Beane hates Omar's guts. If he trades Maine for anyone less than say, johan santana, I will not renew my season ticket package and move to canada. the only thing keeping me here are the Mets and baseball in the summer.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19603','Coop'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19603','Coop','Frank from jersey, I am ok with blanton as long as john maine or oh pea are not inclued in discussions. We can get the same stats and production prob out of those two than with one of Blanton. Plus Blanton is just a larger version of Maine. And maine will be a superstar. if I\'m omar, I hang the phone up in Beane\'s ear is any talk starts with him. But I doubt we do any business with Oakland - Beane hates Omar\'s guts. \r\n\r\nIf he trades Maine for anyone less than say, johan santana, I will not renew my season ticket package and move to canada. the only thing keeping me here are the Mets and baseball in the summer.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Frank from jersey, I am ok with blanton as long as john maine or oh pea are not inclued in discussions. We can get the same stats and production prob out of those two than with one of Blanton. Plus Blanton is just a larger version of Maine. And maine will be a superstar. if I’m omar, I hang the phone up in Beane’s ear is any talk starts with him. But I doubt we do any business with Oakland – Beane hates Omar’s guts.

If he trades Maine for anyone less than say, johan santana, I will not renew my season ticket package and move to canada. the only thing keeping me here are the Mets and baseball in the summer.

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]]> By: frank from Jersey http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-19575 frank from Jersey Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:06:58 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-19575 I want to make one thing clear: I hated the signing of Glavine from the day the rumors started. I thought 4 years ago he was done and I was mostly right. He had a couple stretches where he was bearable but overall his numbers sucked compared to the money. I said it last year in the playoffs that if he gets an umpire that doesn't give him 6 inches off the plate, he was screwed and that's exactly what happened in his last game against the cards. And I'll be honest with you guys, I boycotted pretty much every game he pitched this year because watching him pitch is like watching paint dry. Nibble nibble nibble on the outside corner with his slow and slower cheese. When i would watch him pitch, i would have the urge to stick needles in my eyes. I would rather watch Victor Zambrano pitch than Glavine. Even when he was a Met, he was a Brave at heart. What is his record and ERA against the Braves as a Met? Anyone have the ugly numbers for me? On to the other stuff. I have no idea why they hate LoDuca so much. Personally, I would take him over the others but for God's sake take him out of the #2 hole please! And yes, we need a front line starter and there are none on the free agent market. My biggest fear is that we give up the farm for a Joe Blanton. If we are giving up Millage (i don't want this btw) and maybe gomez and Heilman plus god knows what else, we better get someone better than him. I still think we should give Heilman a shot as a starter provided he starts working on another pitch. Yes, I've lost respect for him over the past year but we need a starter, give him a shot at least! What scares me the most is that Maine and Perez have down years compared to last year and El Dookie and Pedro are injured a lot. If that happens, forget about any playoffs. I'm also really beginning to have my doubts about Pelfry and Humber. Seems like they will be ok bullpen guys but that's about it. We get 1 legitimate prospect in our system over the past 20 years and we trade him for Zambrano while the Skankees have a farm full of pitching phenoms after having a barren farm system just a couple years ago. The baseball Gods can be cruel.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19575','frank from Jersey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19575','frank from Jersey','I want to make one thing clear: I hated the signing of Glavine from the day the rumors started. I thought 4 years ago he was done and I was mostly right. He had a couple stretches where he was bearable but overall his numbers sucked compared to the money. I said it last year in the playoffs that if he gets an umpire that doesn\'t give him 6 inches off the plate, he was screwed and that\'s exactly what happened in his last game against the cards. And I\'ll be honest with you guys, I boycotted pretty much every game he pitched this year because watching him pitch is like watching paint dry. Nibble nibble nibble on the outside corner with his slow and slower cheese. When i would watch him pitch, i would have the urge to stick needles in my eyes. I would rather watch Victor Zambrano pitch than Glavine. Even when he was a Met, he was a Brave at heart. What is his record and ERA against the Braves as a Met? Anyone have the ugly numbers for me?\r\n\r\nOn to the other stuff. I have no idea why they hate LoDuca so much. Personally, I would take him over the others but for God\'s sake take him out of the #2 hole please! And yes, we need a front line starter and there are none on the free agent market. My biggest fear is that we give up the farm for a Joe Blanton. If we are giving up Millage (i don\'t want this btw) and maybe gomez and Heilman plus god knows what else, we better get someone better than him. I still think we should give Heilman a shot as a starter provided he starts working on another pitch. Yes, I\'ve lost respect for him over the past year but we need a starter, give him a shot at least! What scares me the most is that Maine and Perez have down years compared to last year and El Dookie and Pedro are injured a lot. If that happens, forget about any playoffs. I\'m also really beginning to have my doubts about Pelfry and Humber. Seems like they will be ok bullpen guys but that\'s about it. We get 1 legitimate prospect in our system over the past 20 years and we trade him for Zambrano while the Skankees have a farm full of pitching phenoms after having a barren farm system just a couple years ago. The baseball Gods can be cruel.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I want to make one thing clear: I hated the signing of Glavine from the day the rumors started. I thought 4 years ago he was done and I was mostly right. He had a couple stretches where he was bearable but overall his numbers sucked compared to the money. I said it last year in the playoffs that if he gets an umpire that doesn’t give him 6 inches off the plate, he was screwed and that’s exactly what happened in his last game against the cards. And I’ll be honest with you guys, I boycotted pretty much every game he pitched this year because watching him pitch is like watching paint dry. Nibble nibble nibble on the outside corner with his slow and slower cheese. When i would watch him pitch, i would have the urge to stick needles in my eyes. I would rather watch Victor Zambrano pitch than Glavine. Even when he was a Met, he was a Brave at heart. What is his record and ERA against the Braves as a Met? Anyone have the ugly numbers for me?

On to the other stuff. I have no idea why they hate LoDuca so much. Personally, I would take him over the others but for God’s sake take him out of the #2 hole please! And yes, we need a front line starter and there are none on the free agent market. My biggest fear is that we give up the farm for a Joe Blanton. If we are giving up Millage (i don’t want this btw) and maybe gomez and Heilman plus god knows what else, we better get someone better than him. I still think we should give Heilman a shot as a starter provided he starts working on another pitch. Yes, I’ve lost respect for him over the past year but we need a starter, give him a shot at least! What scares me the most is that Maine and Perez have down years compared to last year and El Dookie and Pedro are injured a lot. If that happens, forget about any playoffs. I’m also really beginning to have my doubts about Pelfry and Humber. Seems like they will be ok bullpen guys but that’s about it. We get 1 legitimate prospect in our system over the past 20 years and we trade him for Zambrano while the Skankees have a farm full of pitching phenoms after having a barren farm system just a couple years ago. The baseball Gods can be cruel.

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]]> By: Michael Leggett http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2007/11/19/heave-ho-omar-heave-ho/comment-page-1/#comment-19483 Michael Leggett Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:37:03 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=196#comment-19483 Is Skill sets Jeffy In The Background Again? Tell him to play with the Cyclones; Leave the MLB decisions to Omar<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19483','Michael Leggett'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19483','Michael Leggett','Is Skill sets Jeffy In The Background Again?\r\n\r\nTell him to play with the Cyclones;\r\n\r\nLeave the MLB decisions to Omar'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Is Skill sets Jeffy In The Background Again?

Tell him to play with the Cyclones;

Leave the MLB decisions to Omar

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