Comments on: TWO GAMES INTO THE SEASON AND THE “D” WORD RAISES IT’S UGLY HEAD http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58645 Rich Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:26:49 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58645 Getting injured is not the issue. He did not want to tear his labrum. Coming back, like he did in September, months before most with that surgery would, WHEN WE NEEDED HIM MOST, is what I mean. Name another 35 year-old man who would push to come back 11 months after that surgery.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58645','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58645','Rich','Getting injured is not the issue. He did not want to tear his labrum. Coming back, like he did in September, months before most with that surgery would, WHEN WE NEEDED HIM MOST, is what I mean. Name another 35 year-old man who would push to come back 11 months after that surgery.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Getting injured is not the issue. He did not want to tear his labrum. Coming back, like he did in September, months before most with that surgery would, WHEN WE NEEDED HIM MOST, is what I mean. Name another 35 year-old man who would push to come back 11 months after that surgery.
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58622 kranepool Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:41:00 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58622 Check out Coops site My Summer Family it on the links side bar. www.mysummerfamily.blogspot.com<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58622','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58622','kranepool','Check out Coops site My Summer Family it on the links side bar.\r\n www.mysummerfamily.blogspot.com'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Check out Coops site My Summer Family it on the links side bar.
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]]> By: The Coop http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58620 The Coop Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:11:32 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58620 Visit my blog this weekend on more Pedro thoughts :D I do agree that he brought legitimacy back to the club but at what expense? Sure he cost money - but he's never been there when we've needed him most. And he'll do anything to compete? Yes that was evident in 2005 when we needed him to beat the Phils in order to stay in the wild card race in September - oh yeah, then he disappeared to the DR after saying - well, I don't feel like making the last start of the season which went to ZimZam. Whatever. Anyway, and didn't he start game 1 of the NLDS in 2006? Oh wait, he was broke then too. Oh I guess I Started my own rant on Pedro. That's all though, seriously I mean it! Visit My Summer Family this weekend. I'm sure I'll get chased out of my own blog with pitchforks and torches. Eagle, i'll link to you, man!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58620','The Coop'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58620','The Coop','Visit my blog this weekend on more Pedro thoughts :D I do agree that he brought legitimacy back to the club but at what expense? Sure he cost money - but he\'s never been there when we\'ve needed him most. And he\'ll do anything to compete? Yes that was evident in 2005 when we needed him to beat the Phils in order to stay in the wild card race in September - oh yeah, then he disappeared to the DR after saying - well, I don\'t feel like making the last start of the season which went to ZimZam. Whatever. Anyway, and didn\'t he start game 1 of the NLDS in 2006? Oh wait, he was broke then too. Oh I guess I Started my own rant on Pedro. That\'s all though, seriously I mean it! Visit My Summer Family this weekend. I\'m sure I\'ll get chased out of my own blog with pitchforks and torches. \r\n\r\nEagle, i\'ll link to you, man!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Visit my blog this weekend on more Pedro thoughts :D I do agree that he brought legitimacy back to the club but at what expense? Sure he cost money – but he’s never been there when we’ve needed him most. And he’ll do anything to compete? Yes that was evident in 2005 when we needed him to beat the Phils in order to stay in the wild card race in September – oh yeah, then he disappeared to the DR after saying – well, I don’t feel like making the last start of the season which went to ZimZam. Whatever. Anyway, and didn’t he start game 1 of the NLDS in 2006? Oh wait, he was broke then too. Oh I guess I Started my own rant on Pedro. That’s all though, seriously I mean it! Visit My Summer Family this weekend. I’m sure I’ll get chased out of my own blog with pitchforks and torches.

Eagle, i’ll link to you, man!

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]]> By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58619 Rich Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:43:32 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58619 I agree with Eagle in that Petey changed the culture here, and no doubt was the primary reason Beltran signed, which led to Delgado, etc. The guy has heart and will do anything to compete, which is something some guys on this team need to develop. I don't see doom and gloom here. Petey will be back by Memorial Day with a fresh arm. As long as the Mets are in the race, and we certainly have reason to believe they will be, we'll be ok and get a nice boost going into the hot summer.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58619','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58619','Rich','I agree with Eagle in that Petey changed the culture here, and no doubt was the primary reason Beltran signed, which led to Delgado, etc. The guy has heart and will do anything to compete, which is something some guys on this team need to develop. I don\'t see doom and gloom here. Petey will be back by Memorial Day with a fresh arm. As long as the Mets are in the race, and we certainly have reason to believe they will be, we\'ll be ok and get a nice boost going into the hot summer.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree with Eagle in that Petey changed the culture here, and no doubt was the primary reason Beltran signed, which led to Delgado, etc. The guy has heart and will do anything to compete, which is something some guys on this team need to develop. I don’t see doom and gloom here. Petey will be back by Memorial Day with a fresh arm. As long as the Mets are in the race, and we certainly have reason to believe they will be, we’ll be ok and get a nice boost going into the hot summer.
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]]> By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58585 Eagle Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:47:38 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58585 Kranepool, I figure I've gotta give Haygin to the end of the month before I feel like I can say much about him. He's still settling in. So far, he seems proficient, but maybe lacking a good sense of humor. One of the great features of the Rose & McCarthy partnership was that I always had the idea that these guys liked to make each other laugh. This is of great benefit when there are delays or when the Mets are down a dozen runs in Colorado. Over the past few years McCarthy grew on me, but he still had the ability to annoy me at times. Rose, however, is simply fantastic. You know he cares - a lot - about the Mets, but he doesn't shy away from telling it like it is.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58585','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58585','Eagle','Kranepool,\r\n\r\nI figure I\'ve gotta give Haygin to the end of the month before I feel like I can say much about him. He\'s still settling in. So far, he seems proficient, but maybe lacking a good sense of humor. One of the great features of the Rose & McCarthy partnership was that I always had the idea that these guys liked to make each other laugh. This is of great benefit when there are delays or when the Mets are down a dozen runs in Colorado.\r\n\r\nOver the past few years McCarthy grew on me, but he still had the ability to annoy me at times. Rose, however, is simply fantastic. You know he cares - a lot - about the Mets, but he doesn\'t shy away from telling it like it is.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Kranepool,

I figure I’ve gotta give Haygin to the end of the month before I feel like I can say much about him. He’s still settling in. So far, he seems proficient, but maybe lacking a good sense of humor. One of the great features of the Rose & McCarthy partnership was that I always had the idea that these guys liked to make each other laugh. This is of great benefit when there are delays or when the Mets are down a dozen runs in Colorado.

Over the past few years McCarthy grew on me, but he still had the ability to annoy me at times. Rose, however, is simply fantastic. You know he cares – a lot – about the Mets, but he doesn’t shy away from telling it like it is.

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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58584 kranepool Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:21:48 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58584 Coop, I have to agree with Eagle on Petey but I just luv ya ;>)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58584','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58584','kranepool','Coop, I have to agree with Eagle on Petey but I just luv ya ;>)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Coop, I have to agree with Eagle on Petey but I just luv ya ;>)
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58583 kranepool Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:20:51 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58583 Eagle, welcome to the Mets blogsphre I've added you to the links. Tell me what do you think of Wayne Hagin? I've got to listen to a few innings of him to get a feel Chris, By no means am I packing it in due to Petey's injury but this organization is very thin in the starting pitching department as it is Johan is a given and even Maine is close to that. OP is inconsistant and Big Pelf and Bunions Hernandez are ? If this division becomes a tight race this team has not shown the onions to close the deal.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58583','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58583','kranepool','Eagle, welcome to the Mets blogsphre I\'ve added you to the links. Tell me what do you think of Wayne Hagin? I\'ve got to listen to a few innings of him to get a feel\r\n\r\nChris, By no means am I packing it in due to Petey\'s injury but this organization is very thin in the starting pitching department as it is Johan is a given and even Maine is close to that. OP is inconsistant and Big Pelf and Bunions Hernandez are ? \r\n\r\nIf this division becomes a tight race this team has not shown the onions to close the deal.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Eagle, welcome to the Mets blogsphre I’ve added you to the links. Tell me what do you think of Wayne Hagin? I’ve got to listen to a few innings of him to get a feel

Chris, By no means am I packing it in due to Petey’s injury but this organization is very thin in the starting pitching department as it is Johan is a given and even Maine is close to that. OP is inconsistant and Big Pelf and Bunions Hernandez are ?

If this division becomes a tight race this team has not shown the onions to close the deal.

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]]> By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58582 Eagle Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:48:00 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58582 By the way, Steve, I started my own Mets blog the other day. I haven't got comments added yet and I'm still not convinced I have enough to say, but we'll see. It's called <a href="http://metsonthewireless.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Mets on the Wireless</a>.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58582','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58582','Eagle','By the way, Steve, I started my own Mets blog the other day. I haven\'t got comments added yet and I\'m still not convinced I have enough to say, but we\'ll see. \r\n\r\nIt\'s called <a href=\"http:\/\/metsonthewireless.blogspot.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mets on the Wireless<\/a>.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> By the way, Steve, I started my own Mets blog the other day. I haven’t got comments added yet and I’m still not convinced I have enough to say, but we’ll see.

It’s called Mets on the Wireless.

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]]> By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58581 Eagle Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:33:23 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58581 Coop I can understand your frustration with Pedro, but he came through for the Mets when he signed with the club. Made them respectable again. That can be over-stated, but there's something to it. Changed the tone of the club.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58581','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58581','Eagle','Coop\r\n\r\nI can understand your frustration with Pedro, but he came through for the Mets when he signed with the club. Made them respectable again. That can be over-stated, but there\'s something to it. Changed the tone of the club.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Coop

I can understand your frustration with Pedro, but he came through for the Mets when he signed with the club. Made them respectable again. That can be over-stated, but there’s something to it. Changed the tone of the club.

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]]> By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/comment-page-1/#comment-58580 Eagle Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:29:34 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/02/two-games-into-the-season-and-the-d-word-raises-its-ugly-head/#comment-58580 I'm down too, but I was half expecting something like this. Too much was being made of Martinez and too little was made of the fact that he's hardly pitched in 18 months and he's (at least) 36. If there's an upside, the other teams in the division are not much better off. Atlanta's pitching staff is older and more injury prone. Philadelphia has the dual problem of a makeshift staff and a stadium that caused mental trouble for pitchers. We just have to hope that Washington doesn't run away with it in the first month. I have to admit that when I first read your reference to Nelson Figueroa above I thought you'd written Nino Espinosa. And, given Omar's 'form' (as they say in English soccer circles) I half figured you were right. Maybe Pedro Astacio is available? Uggh.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('58580','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('58580','Eagle','I\'m down too, but I was half expecting something like this. Too much was being made of Martinez and too little was made of the fact that he\'s hardly pitched in 18 months and he\'s (at least) 36. \r\n\r\nIf there\'s an upside, the other teams in the division are not much better off. Atlanta\'s pitching staff is older and more injury prone. Philadelphia has the dual problem of a makeshift staff and a stadium that caused mental trouble for pitchers. We just have to hope that Washington doesn\'t run away with it in the first month.\r\n\r\nI have to admit that when I first read your reference to Nelson Figueroa above I thought you\'d written Nino Espinosa. And, given Omar\'s \'form\' (as they say in English soccer circles) I half figured you were right. Maybe Pedro Astacio is available? Uggh.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’m down too, but I was half expecting something like this. Too much was being made of Martinez and too little was made of the fact that he’s hardly pitched in 18 months and he’s (at least) 36.

If there’s an upside, the other teams in the division are not much better off. Atlanta’s pitching staff is older and more injury prone. Philadelphia has the dual problem of a makeshift staff and a stadium that caused mental trouble for pitchers. We just have to hope that Washington doesn’t run away with it in the first month.

I have to admit that when I first read your reference to Nelson Figueroa above I thought you’d written Nino Espinosa. And, given Omar’s ‘form’ (as they say in English soccer circles) I half figured you were right. Maybe Pedro Astacio is available? Uggh.

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