Comments on: FIRE RICK PETERSON! http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: YOU FIRE HIM, NO, YOU FIRE HIM, NO YOU DO IT, NO YOU DO IT | Kranepool Society :: A New York Mets Blog http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-69884 YOU FIRE HIM, NO, YOU FIRE HIM, NO YOU DO IT, NO YOU DO IT | Kranepool Society :: A New York Mets Blog Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:53:28 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-69884 [...] I wanted Rick Peterson out of here two months ago an it looks like the Omar and the Skill Sets finally feel the same way. I’m all for brining up Dan Warthen from NOLA (although I’d like to see Bobby Ojeda as pitching coach) as The Jacket (did you see it’s return last night) has gotten stale [...]
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-60313 kranepool Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:03:51 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-60313 WOW take two out of three from the Braves and the world is a bright blue and orange hue let's hope we're all hugging next week after the visit to the Snake Pit<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60313','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60313','kranepool','WOW take two out of three from the Braves and the world is a bright blue and orange hue let\'s hope we\'re all hugging next week after the visit to the Snake Pit'); return false;">Quote</a></div> WOW take two out of three from the Braves and the world is a bright blue and orange hue let’s hope we’re all hugging next week after the visit to the Snake Pit
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]]> By: Harry http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-60307 Harry Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:36:14 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-60307 the Mets are 8th in MLB in pitching, are you guys that crazy, why should Omar go? look where the Mets were 3 years ago, can the season play out a little, I meam Beltran hasn't started hitting yet, the Mets will be fine, just freaking relax<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60307','Harry'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60307','Harry','the Mets are 8th in MLB in pitching, are you guys that crazy, why should Omar go? look where the Mets were 3 years ago, can the season play out a little, I meam Beltran hasn\'t started hitting yet, the Mets will be fine, just freaking relax'); return false;">Quote</a></div> the Mets are 8th in MLB in pitching, are you guys that crazy, why should Omar go? look where the Mets were 3 years ago, can the season play out a little, I meam Beltran hasn’t started hitting yet, the Mets will be fine, just freaking relax
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]]> By: Steve http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-60303 Steve Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:50:29 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-60303 What evidence do you have to back up that his message has gotten stale? The Mets as a staff have the 5th best ERA in the NL with 2 of their starters going down(Pedro and El Duque). Both forseeable, btw. The hitters are underachieving, not the pitchers. The age factor is coming into play with the 2 injured pitchers as well as Alou. That may be evidence that Willie Randolph and Omar Minayaa should go, not Rick Peterson.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60303','Steve'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60303','Steve','What evidence do you have to back up that his message has gotten stale? The Mets as a staff have the 5th best ERA in the NL with 2 of their starters going down(Pedro and El Duque). Both forseeable, btw. The hitters are underachieving, not the pitchers. The age factor is coming into play with the 2 injured pitchers as well as Alou. That may be evidence that Willie Randolph and Omar Minayaa should go, not Rick Peterson.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> What evidence do you have to back up that his message has gotten stale? The Mets as a staff have the 5th best ERA in the NL with 2 of their starters going down(Pedro and El Duque). Both forseeable, btw. The hitters are underachieving, not the pitchers. The age factor is coming into play with the 2 injured pitchers as well as Alou. That may be evidence that Willie Randolph and Omar Minayaa should go, not Rick Peterson.
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-60301 kranepool Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:31:11 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-60301 Steve, I'm watching a bunch of underachivers who have played .500 ball since last June. I just think Peterson's message has gotten a little stale and maybe it's time for a new voice<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60301','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60301','kranepool','Steve, I\'m watching a bunch of underachivers who have played .500 ball since last June.\r\n\r\nI just think Peterson\'s message has gotten a little stale and maybe it\'s time for a new voice'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Steve, I’m watching a bunch of underachivers who have played .500 ball since last June.

I just think Peterson’s message has gotten a little stale and maybe it’s time for a new voice

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]]> By: Steve http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-60295 Steve Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:13:07 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-60295 What team are you watching? This team is above .500 with Beltran batting .220 something, Reyes batting .230 something, Delgado doing absolutley nothing until yesterday, Wright struggling over the last week, Alou out, Schneider out, Castillo struggling. The pitching is doing well. Rick Peterson is not the problem, if there is one. It is the age of team and the lack of hitting to date.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60295','Steve'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60295','Steve','What team are you watching? This team is above .500 with Beltran batting .220 something, Reyes batting .230 something, Delgado doing absolutley nothing until yesterday, Wright struggling over the last week, Alou out, Schneider out, Castillo struggling. The pitching is doing well. Rick Peterson is not the problem, if there is one. It is the age of team and the lack of hitting to date.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> What team are you watching? This team is above .500 with Beltran batting .220 something, Reyes batting .230 something, Delgado doing absolutley nothing until yesterday, Wright struggling over the last week, Alou out, Schneider out, Castillo struggling. The pitching is doing well. Rick Peterson is not the problem, if there is one. It is the age of team and the lack of hitting to date.
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]]> By: Michael Leggett http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-60213 Michael Leggett Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:52:29 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-60213 Peterson-Good Replacement for Mc Fullofs--t, in The FOX Booth<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60213','Michael Leggett'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60213','Michael Leggett','Peterson-Good Replacement for Mc Fullofs--t, in The FOX Booth'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Peterson-Good Replacement for Mc Fullofs–t, in The FOX Booth
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]]> By: mr.bmc http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-60202 mr.bmc Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:40:09 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-60202 Wait. You mean Jorge Sosa isn't a bum who should be the mop up man instead of pitching high leverage situations? Oh! I see. Prof Rick is supposed to wave his magic wand and turn a 30 year old pumpkin into a back-end monster! He'll chant a spell and Schoenweiss will magically be able to get right handers out! One shake of his mullet and Aaron Heilman - in spite of all evidence to the contrary - will suddenly make pitches with 2 strikes! No. He doesn't work miracles. Rick Peterson keeps the pitchers healthy and focused (mostly). He doesn't do their jobs for them. Rick Peterson isn't the reason Delgado can't hit fastballs, Pagan can't hit breaking balls, and Jose Reyes is swinging at everything like it's 2004. Rick Peterson isn't the reason the Mets won't advance scout rookie pitchers. Rick Peterson isn't the reason Castillo is sucking up at bats in the 2 hole. The Mets are under-acheiving on the mound. That's true. But they're also under-acheiving at the plate and in the field... The whole team suffers the same workman like ho-hum drudgery. That's not coming from the pitching coach. That all comes from the captain of the ship.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60202','mr.bmc'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60202','mr.bmc','Wait. You mean Jorge Sosa isn\'t a bum who should be the mop up man instead of pitching high leverage situations? Oh! I see. Prof Rick is supposed to wave his magic wand and turn a 30 year old pumpkin into a back-end monster! He\'ll chant a spell and Schoenweiss will magically be able to get right handers out! One shake of his mullet and Aaron Heilman - in spite of all evidence to the contrary - will suddenly make pitches with 2 strikes!\r\n\r\nNo. He doesn\'t work miracles. Rick Peterson keeps the pitchers healthy and focused (mostly). He doesn\'t do their jobs for them.\r\n\r\nRick Peterson isn\'t the reason Delgado can\'t hit fastballs, Pagan can\'t hit breaking balls, and Jose Reyes is swinging at everything like it\'s 2004. Rick Peterson isn\'t the reason the Mets won\'t advance scout rookie pitchers. Rick Peterson isn\'t the reason Castillo is sucking up at bats in the 2 hole.\r\n\r\nThe Mets are under-acheiving on the mound. That\'s true. But they\'re also under-acheiving at the plate and in the field... The whole team suffers the same workman like ho-hum drudgery. That\'s not coming from the pitching coach. That all comes from the captain of the ship.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Wait. You mean Jorge Sosa isn’t a bum who should be the mop up man instead of pitching high leverage situations? Oh! I see. Prof Rick is supposed to wave his magic wand and turn a 30 year old pumpkin into a back-end monster! He’ll chant a spell and Schoenweiss will magically be able to get right handers out! One shake of his mullet and Aaron Heilman – in spite of all evidence to the contrary – will suddenly make pitches with 2 strikes!

No. He doesn’t work miracles. Rick Peterson keeps the pitchers healthy and focused (mostly). He doesn’t do their jobs for them.

Rick Peterson isn’t the reason Delgado can’t hit fastballs, Pagan can’t hit breaking balls, and Jose Reyes is swinging at everything like it’s 2004. Rick Peterson isn’t the reason the Mets won’t advance scout rookie pitchers. Rick Peterson isn’t the reason Castillo is sucking up at bats in the 2 hole.

The Mets are under-acheiving on the mound. That’s true. But they’re also under-acheiving at the plate and in the field… The whole team suffers the same workman like ho-hum drudgery. That’s not coming from the pitching coach. That all comes from the captain of the ship.

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]]> By: David in Manhattan http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-60056 David in Manhattan Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:23:36 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-60056 You make a strong case, Steve. The fire (though not just among pitchers) is what was missing in September 2007, and after watching Ollie fall part last night, and then the bullpen in what till then looked like, and was supposed to be, and had to be, a very routine, over-matched Met victory...maybe moving Professor Rick is the lever to pull before things get too crazy in 2008. The Bobby Ojeda piece makes sense. But I am even more worried about the hitting right now than the pitching. A look at the MLB batting leaders is horrible, everything led by our NL East competition. Best MLB BA: Chipper and Utley; top 4 most MLB homers: Utley, Burrell, Jacobs, Chipper; most NL RBIs: Burrell, Utley. And Smoltz has the best ERA in the NL, Hanley Ramirez is playing like the next MVP...etc. Our guys are not showing confidence, not taking good swings, making it easy for the opposition. So how does changing the Pitching Coach help solve this emergency? Cliff Floyd is 5 for 15 with two homers in 2008 with Tampa Bay. Problem with Cliff, ove the guy, but an injury waiting to happen.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60056','David in Manhattan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60056','David in Manhattan','You make a strong case, Steve. \r\n\r\nThe fire (though not just among pitchers) is what was missing in September 2007, and after watching Ollie fall part last night, and then the bullpen in what till then looked like, and was supposed to be, and had to be, a very routine, over-matched Met victory...maybe moving Professor Rick is the lever to pull before things get too crazy in 2008. The Bobby Ojeda piece makes sense.\r\n\r\nBut I am even more worried about the hitting right now than the pitching. A look at the MLB batting leaders is horrible, everything led by our NL East competition. Best MLB BA: Chipper and Utley; top 4 most MLB homers: Utley, Burrell, Jacobs, Chipper; most NL RBIs: Burrell, Utley. And Smoltz has the best ERA in the NL, Hanley Ramirez is playing like the next MVP...etc. Our guys are not showing confidence, not taking good swings, making it easy for the opposition. So how does changing the Pitching Coach help solve this emergency? \r\n\r\nCliff Floyd is 5 for 15 with two homers in 2008 with Tampa Bay. Problem with Cliff, ove the guy, but an injury waiting to happen.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> You make a strong case, Steve.

The fire (though not just among pitchers) is what was missing in September 2007, and after watching Ollie fall part last night, and then the bullpen in what till then looked like, and was supposed to be, and had to be, a very routine, over-matched Met victory…maybe moving Professor Rick is the lever to pull before things get too crazy in 2008. The Bobby Ojeda piece makes sense.

But I am even more worried about the hitting right now than the pitching. A look at the MLB batting leaders is horrible, everything led by our NL East competition. Best MLB BA: Chipper and Utley; top 4 most MLB homers: Utley, Burrell, Jacobs, Chipper; most NL RBIs: Burrell, Utley. And Smoltz has the best ERA in the NL, Hanley Ramirez is playing like the next MVP…etc. Our guys are not showing confidence, not taking good swings, making it easy for the opposition. So how does changing the Pitching Coach help solve this emergency?

Cliff Floyd is 5 for 15 with two homers in 2008 with Tampa Bay. Problem with Cliff, ove the guy, but an injury waiting to happen.

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]]> By: Mark http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/comment-page-1/#comment-60049 Mark Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:37:53 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/25/fire-rick-peterson/#comment-60049 Amen!! on Bobby Ojeda. Do it, do it now!! And I like the Cliff Floyd idea as well. I love this blog -- it's hilarious. Keep it up.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60049','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60049','Mark','Amen!! on Bobby Ojeda. Do it, do it now!! And I like the Cliff Floyd idea as well.\r\n\r\nI love this blog -- it\'s hilarious. Keep it up.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Amen!! on Bobby Ojeda. Do it, do it now!! And I like the Cliff Floyd idea as well.

I love this blog — it’s hilarious. Keep it up.

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