Comments on: WHEN MOISES COMES MARCHING HOME AGAIN, HURRAH HURRAH http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/30/when-moises-comes-marching-home-again-hurrah-hurrah/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:39:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Buzzwatch : In Brief: The Anti-Web Rant That Has Sports Bloggers--and Fans--Talking http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/30/when-moises-comes-marching-home-again-hurrah-hurrah/comment-page-1/#comment-60708 Buzzwatch : In Brief: The Anti-Web Rant That Has Sports Bloggers--and Fans--Talking Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:21:49 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/30/when-moises-comes-marching-home-again-hurrah-hurrah/#comment-60708 [...] A more colorful summary from Eddie Kranepool Society blogger (and Buzzwatch favorite), Steve Keane. (Note: mature language.) [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60708','Buzzwatch : In Brief: The Anti-Web Rant That Has Sports Bloggers--and Fans--Talking'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60708','Buzzwatch : In Brief: The Anti-Web Rant That Has Sports Bloggers--and Fans--Talking','[...] A more colorful summary from Eddie Kranepool Society blogger (and Buzzwatch favorite), Steve Keane. (Note: mature language.) [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] A more colorful summary from Eddie Kranepool Society blogger (and Buzzwatch favorite), Steve Keane. (Note: mature language.) [...]
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]]> By: Frank from Jersey http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/30/when-moises-comes-marching-home-again-hurrah-hurrah/comment-page-1/#comment-60634 Frank from Jersey Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:29:28 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/30/when-moises-comes-marching-home-again-hurrah-hurrah/#comment-60634 Couple observations last night for me on Santana. He obviously was not "on" last night which is fine because not "on" for Santana is better than most other pitchers out there when they are "on". First thing is his velocity. This is scaring me. He threw 89 consistantly all night with a rare 90 or 91. What happened to 95 that he has been throwing forever until he got to New York? Don't tell me its the weather because every other pitcher was throwing their normal velocity including Yates who touched 95 on a couple pitches. It's no wonder his home runs are so high because even though he has good movement on the fastball, it's still hittable at 89 mph and when you know you have a 50/50 shot at getting that fastball since he's basically a 2 pitch pitcher. I'm wondering if that in his head, he still thinks he can blow that fastball by hitters now. I know that his changeup probably makes 89mph look like 99 but it seems obvious to me from watching hitters against him that they are either sitting on the fastball or the change, mostly the fastball. I can't believe how many good changeups opposing batters are not swinging at on him. This is worrisome for me, not right now but in a year or 2 when his fastball might even get slower. I compare him to Ryan Howard. It's either a homerun or a strikeout. Here is what I am hoping it is...I noticed everytime they do that closeup camera view on his pitch before release, he's throwing a 2 seam fastball which gives more movement but less velocity than a 4 seamer. Maybe he can throw the 4 seamer at 95 still but ops for more movement. IMHO though, he's still giving up tons of homeruns and should go back to whatever he was doing 2 years ago and before. Last point: I noticed that his push off foot is always pushing off the right side of the rubber. I was always taught that a lefthander should be using the left side of the rubber as to give more of an angle at the batter. This is so the ball dosn't come straight down the middle. It's this same concept that gives pitchers like Feliciano more of an advantage. He has a huge angle from his release point to the plate which is why he is so good against lefties. I'm sure there is a reason he is using the wrong side of the rubber, maybe it has something to do with his changeup, I don't know. That's all, I'm done blabbing for now. BTW, our offense really makes me want to cry. These guys just seem so lost at the plate. I wish someone/something would light a fire under this teams ass and get them going.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60634','Frank from Jersey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60634','Frank from Jersey','Couple observations last night for me on Santana. He obviously was not \"on\" last night which is fine because not \"on\" for Santana is better than most other pitchers out there when they are \"on\". First thing is his velocity. This is scaring me. He threw 89 consistantly all night with a rare 90 or 91. What happened to 95 that he has been throwing forever until he got to New York? Don\'t tell me its the weather because every other pitcher was throwing their normal velocity including Yates who touched 95 on a couple pitches. It\'s no wonder his home runs are so high because even though he has good movement on the fastball, it\'s still hittable at 89 mph and when you know you have a 50\/50 shot at getting that fastball since he\'s basically a 2 pitch pitcher. I\'m wondering if that in his head, he still thinks he can blow that fastball by hitters now. I know that his changeup probably makes 89mph look like 99 but it seems obvious to me from watching hitters against him that they are either sitting on the fastball or the change, mostly the fastball. I can\'t believe how many good changeups opposing batters are not swinging at on him. This is worrisome for me, not right now but in a year or 2 when his fastball might even get slower. I compare him to Ryan Howard. It\'s either a homerun or a strikeout. Here is what I am hoping it is...I noticed everytime they do that closeup camera view on his pitch before release, he\'s throwing a 2 seam fastball which gives more movement but less velocity than a 4 seamer. Maybe he can throw the 4 seamer at 95 still but ops for more movement. IMHO though, he\'s still giving up tons of homeruns and should go back to whatever he was doing 2 years ago and before.\r\n\r\nLast point: I noticed that his push off foot is always pushing off the right side of the rubber. I was always taught that a lefthander should be using the left side of the rubber as to give more of an angle at the batter. This is so the ball dosn\'t come straight down the middle. It\'s this same concept that gives pitchers like Feliciano more of an advantage. He has a huge angle from his release point to the plate which is why he is so good against lefties. I\'m sure there is a reason he is using the wrong side of the rubber, maybe it has something to do with his changeup, I don\'t know.\r\n\r\nThat\'s all, I\'m done blabbing for now. BTW, our offense really makes me want to cry. These guys just seem so lost at the plate. I wish someone\/something would light a fire under this teams ass and get them going.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Couple observations last night for me on Santana. He obviously was not “on” last night which is fine because not “on” for Santana is better than most other pitchers out there when they are “on”. First thing is his velocity. This is scaring me. He threw 89 consistantly all night with a rare 90 or 91. What happened to 95 that he has been throwing forever until he got to New York? Don’t tell me its the weather because every other pitcher was throwing their normal velocity including Yates who touched 95 on a couple pitches. It’s no wonder his home runs are so high because even though he has good movement on the fastball, it’s still hittable at 89 mph and when you know you have a 50/50 shot at getting that fastball since he’s basically a 2 pitch pitcher. I’m wondering if that in his head, he still thinks he can blow that fastball by hitters now. I know that his changeup probably makes 89mph look like 99 but it seems obvious to me from watching hitters against him that they are either sitting on the fastball or the change, mostly the fastball. I can’t believe how many good changeups opposing batters are not swinging at on him. This is worrisome for me, not right now but in a year or 2 when his fastball might even get slower. I compare him to Ryan Howard. It’s either a homerun or a strikeout. Here is what I am hoping it is…I noticed everytime they do that closeup camera view on his pitch before release, he’s throwing a 2 seam fastball which gives more movement but less velocity than a 4 seamer. Maybe he can throw the 4 seamer at 95 still but ops for more movement. IMHO though, he’s still giving up tons of homeruns and should go back to whatever he was doing 2 years ago and before.

Last point: I noticed that his push off foot is always pushing off the right side of the rubber. I was always taught that a lefthander should be using the left side of the rubber as to give more of an angle at the batter. This is so the ball dosn’t come straight down the middle. It’s this same concept that gives pitchers like Feliciano more of an advantage. He has a huge angle from his release point to the plate which is why he is so good against lefties. I’m sure there is a reason he is using the wrong side of the rubber, maybe it has something to do with his changeup, I don’t know.

That’s all, I’m done blabbing for now. BTW, our offense really makes me want to cry. These guys just seem so lost at the plate. I wish someone/something would light a fire under this teams ass and get them going.

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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/30/when-moises-comes-marching-home-again-hurrah-hurrah/comment-page-1/#comment-60629 kranepool Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:23:42 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/30/when-moises-comes-marching-home-again-hurrah-hurrah/#comment-60629 Best wishes to Sean Avery as he laid it on the line last night for the Blueshirts along with Ryan Callahan<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60629','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60629','kranepool','Best wishes to Sean Avery as he laid it on the line last night for the Blueshirts along with Ryan Callahan'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Best wishes to Sean Avery as he laid it on the line last night for the Blueshirts along with Ryan Callahan
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]]> By: The Coop http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/30/when-moises-comes-marching-home-again-hurrah-hurrah/comment-page-1/#comment-60603 The Coop Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:34:27 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/04/30/when-moises-comes-marching-home-again-hurrah-hurrah/#comment-60603 not mets related but sean avery is OUT of playoffs and in hospital http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/hockey/nhl/specials/playoffs/2008/04/30/avery.cardiac.arrest/index.html?cnn=yes<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('60603','The Coop'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('60603','The Coop','not mets related but sean avery is OUT of playoffs and in hospital\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/sportsillustrated.cnn.com\/2008\/hockey\/nhl\/specials\/playoffs\/2008\/04\/30\/avery.cardiac.arrest\/index.html?cnn=yes'); return false;">Quote</a></div> not mets related but sean avery is OUT of playoffs and in hospital

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/hockey/nhl/specials/playoffs/2008/04/30/avery.cardiac.arrest/index.html?cnn=yes

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