Comments on: HANDWRITING ON THE WALL http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/05/05/handwriting-on-the-wall/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:25:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/05/05/handwriting-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-63725 Eagle Tue, 06 May 2008 15:23:47 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/05/05/handwriting-on-the-wall/#comment-63725 There are some interesting, but odd points in that article. One, what is he saying about the defense behind Perez? That the Mets don't try as hard when he's on the mound? If not, then why do they make more errors when he's on the mound? Why does the defense's concentration lapse? Then there's this: <i>This year, a Perez who merely repeats his 2007 would give New York a third starter far better than those possessed by division rivals Atlanta or Philadelphia, along with nearly every team in the National League.</i> I agree with that. BUT, he won 15 games last year and we all EXPECT him to duplicate that at a minimum. That's a pretty high bar, one that I think is too big a burden for so delicate a mind. Nobody doubts the guy's talented, but I doubt he's a winner.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('63725','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('63725','Eagle','There are some interesting, but odd points in that article. One, what is he saying about the defense behind Perez? That the Mets don\'t try as hard when he\'s on the mound? If not, then why do they make more errors when he\'s on the mound? Why does the defense\'s concentration lapse?\r\n\r\nThen there\'s this:\r\n<i>This year, a Perez who merely repeats his 2007 would give New York a third starter far better than those possessed by division rivals Atlanta or Philadelphia, along with nearly every team in the National League.<\/i>\r\n\r\nI agree with that. BUT, he won 15 games last year and we all EXPECT him to duplicate that at a minimum. That\'s a pretty high bar, one that I think is too big a burden for so delicate a mind. \r\n\r\nNobody doubts the guy\'s talented, but I doubt he\'s a winner.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> There are some interesting, but odd points in that article. One, what is he saying about the defense behind Perez? That the Mets don’t try as hard when he’s on the mound? If not, then why do they make more errors when he’s on the mound? Why does the defense’s concentration lapse?

Then there’s this:
This year, a Perez who merely repeats his 2007 would give New York a third starter far better than those possessed by division rivals Atlanta or Philadelphia, along with nearly every team in the National League.

I agree with that. BUT, he won 15 games last year and we all EXPECT him to duplicate that at a minimum. That’s a pretty high bar, one that I think is too big a burden for so delicate a mind.

Nobody doubts the guy’s talented, but I doubt he’s a winner.

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]]> By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/05/05/handwriting-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-63723 Eagle Tue, 06 May 2008 15:17:58 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/05/05/handwriting-on-the-wall/#comment-63723 My problem with Perez is that I don't think he can handle expectation. The more that's expected of him, the less he delivers. Last year, expectations were not that high, but this year people were talking about him at least matching what he did last year. That's pressure. And, of course, his decision NOT to extend means he's under pressure to perform so that he can get the big contract he figures is his due. Perez needs a psychiatrist, not a new pitching coach.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('63723','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('63723','Eagle','My problem with Perez is that I don\'t think he can handle expectation. The more that\'s expected of him, the less he delivers. Last year, expectations were not that high, but this year people were talking about him at least matching what he did last year. That\'s pressure.\r\n\r\nAnd, of course, his decision NOT to extend means he\'s under pressure to perform so that he can get the big contract he figures is his due.\r\n\r\nPerez needs a psychiatrist, not a new pitching coach.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> My problem with Perez is that I don’t think he can handle expectation. The more that’s expected of him, the less he delivers. Last year, expectations were not that high, but this year people were talking about him at least matching what he did last year. That’s pressure.

And, of course, his decision NOT to extend means he’s under pressure to perform so that he can get the big contract he figures is his due.

Perez needs a psychiatrist, not a new pitching coach.

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]]> By: Gary http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/05/05/handwriting-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-63618 Gary Tue, 06 May 2008 12:19:34 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/05/05/handwriting-on-the-wall/#comment-63618 I read the article with interest, and thought the stat about number of unearned runs given up was interesting. However, my take is that the focus described in the article (fielders don't concentrate cause of all the walks) is a bit backwards. I think it's Ollie who loses concentration when something goes wrong behind him. I was in SF last year for a game that the Mets lost 9-1. All of those runs were given up by Ollie, with only 2 earned. He was pitching a beauty, leading 1-0 into the 5th when he got into a little trouble. 2 runs in, 2 outs and a liner that Shawn Green let clank off his glove that should have been the third out. After that it was like Ollie imploded - 7 more runs that inning and the game was lost. His appearances are so bipolar - either 0 runs allowed or loads. I'd love to see a breakdown of his good starts vs his bad starts - you can't properly evaluate him based on the averages! I do like him but for what it's worth I benched him in my fantasy league last night, and that turned out to be a good decision! Dropped him today.... It will be interesting to see if a new pitching coach can make a difference on this team.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('63618','Gary'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('63618','Gary','I read the article with interest, and thought the stat about number of unearned runs given up was interesting. However, my take is that the focus described in the article (fielders don\'t concentrate cause of all the walks) is a bit backwards. I think it\'s Ollie who loses concentration when something goes wrong behind him.\r\n\r\nI was in SF last year for a game that the Mets lost 9-1. All of those runs were given up by Ollie, with only 2 earned. He was pitching a beauty, leading 1-0 into the 5th when he got into a little trouble. 2 runs in, 2 outs and a liner that Shawn Green let clank off his glove that should have been the third out.\r\n\r\nAfter that it was like Ollie imploded - 7 more runs that inning and the game was lost.\r\n\r\nHis appearances are so bipolar - either 0 runs allowed or loads. I\'d love to see a breakdown of his good starts vs his bad starts - you can\'t properly evaluate him based on the averages!\r\n\r\nI do like him but for what it\'s worth I benched him in my fantasy league last night, and that turned out to be a good decision! Dropped him today....\r\n\r\nIt will be interesting to see if a new pitching coach can make a difference on this team.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I read the article with interest, and thought the stat about number of unearned runs given up was interesting. However, my take is that the focus described in the article (fielders don’t concentrate cause of all the walks) is a bit backwards. I think it’s Ollie who loses concentration when something goes wrong behind him.

I was in SF last year for a game that the Mets lost 9-1. All of those runs were given up by Ollie, with only 2 earned. He was pitching a beauty, leading 1-0 into the 5th when he got into a little trouble. 2 runs in, 2 outs and a liner that Shawn Green let clank off his glove that should have been the third out.

After that it was like Ollie imploded – 7 more runs that inning and the game was lost.

His appearances are so bipolar – either 0 runs allowed or loads. I’d love to see a breakdown of his good starts vs his bad starts – you can’t properly evaluate him based on the averages!

I do like him but for what it’s worth I benched him in my fantasy league last night, and that turned out to be a good decision! Dropped him today….

It will be interesting to see if a new pitching coach can make a difference on this team.

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]]> By: Frank from Jersey http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/05/05/handwriting-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-63319 Frank from Jersey Mon, 05 May 2008 21:33:10 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/05/05/handwriting-on-the-wall/#comment-63319 Before I read the article about OP, I was a fan of his and I totally agree that it will definitely hurt the Mets if/when he leaves next year. Either way we are screwed because if he pitches like crap this year, it hurts us and if he pitches like last year, he will want something like 5 years $60 mil which I don't think the Mets will pay.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('63319','Frank from Jersey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('63319','Frank from Jersey','Before I read the article about OP, I was a fan of his and I totally agree that it will definitely hurt the Mets if\/when he leaves next year. Either way we are screwed because if he pitches like crap this year, it hurts us and if he pitches like last year, he will want something like 5 years $60 mil which I don\'t think the Mets will pay.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Before I read the article about OP, I was a fan of his and I totally agree that it will definitely hurt the Mets if/when he leaves next year. Either way we are screwed because if he pitches like crap this year, it hurts us and if he pitches like last year, he will want something like 5 years $60 mil which I don’t think the Mets will pay.
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