Comments on: PUT IT IN THE BOOKS, ANOTHER METS DISASTER http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: what is a dirty sanchez http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-84276 what is a dirty sanchez Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:11:36 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-84276 [...] and engaging with his ???Goin?? Gangsta??? and all but last night it all changed as the cool, hihttp://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/The Top Eight So You Think You Can Dance contestants. - VoiceofDance.comThe key is Courtney totally [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('84276','what is a dirty sanchez'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('84276','what is a dirty sanchez','[...] and engaging with his ???Goin?? Gangsta??? and all but last night it all changed as the cool, hihttp:\/\/www.kranepoolsociety.com\/2008\/07\/23\/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster\/The Top Eight So You Think You Can Dance contestants. - VoiceofDance.comThe key is Courtney totally [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] and engaging with his ???Goin?? Gangsta??? and all but last night it all changed as the cool, hihttp://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/The Top Eight So You Think You Can Dance contestants. – VoiceofDance.comThe key is Courtney totally [...]
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-83930 kranepool Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:48:32 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-83930 David what do you expect from a guy (Showalter) that was worried more about if his players wore their pants leg high or low and wears out his welcome with his bullsit compulsive behavior. As for O' Brien the guy was clueless when he did weekend Mets games and embarassing as a soccer announcer on the WWL as the Great Mike Francesa would do I give a big HANDWAVE to O'Brien and Showalter. Right On Rich. I like when Jose plays with an edge and if any tema has a problem with that tough shit. Delgado clean up? Live long enough and you see it all<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('83930','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('83930','kranepool','David what do you expect from a guy (Showalter) that was worried more about if his players wore their pants leg high or low and wears out his welcome with his bullsit compulsive behavior. As for O\' Brien the guy was clueless when he did weekend Mets games and embarassing as a soccer announcer on the WWL as the Great Mike Francesa would do I give a big HANDWAVE to O\'Brien and Showalter.\r\n\r\nRight On Rich. I like when Jose plays with an edge and if any tema has a problem with that tough shit.\r\n\r\nDelgado clean up? Live long enough and you see it all'); return false;">Quote</a></div> David what do you expect from a guy (Showalter) that was worried more about if his players wore their pants leg high or low and wears out his welcome with his bullsit compulsive behavior. As for O’ Brien the guy was clueless when he did weekend Mets games and embarassing as a soccer announcer on the WWL as the Great Mike Francesa would do I give a big HANDWAVE to O’Brien and Showalter.

Right On Rich. I like when Jose plays with an edge and if any tema has a problem with that tough shit.

Delgado clean up? Live long enough and you see it all

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]]> By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-83827 Rich Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:56:32 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-83827 Another "talking point" today is the Reyes jaunt around the bases after his HR. You know what? Phillie fans, shut up. Any team with Victorino and Rollins has nothing to say about cockiness. Yankee fans, do you watch the games when A-Rod flips the bat and stares into the Yankee dugout? Do you watch Jobber (as Francessa says) after a K? Shut up. I generally don't like that stuff, but when a team does it in your face, there's nothing wrong with sticking it back to them.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('83827','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('83827','Rich','Another \"talking point\" today is the Reyes jaunt around the bases after his HR. You know what? Phillie fans, shut up. Any team with Victorino and Rollins has nothing to say about cockiness. Yankee fans, do you watch the games when A-Rod flips the bat and stares into the Yankee dugout? Do you watch Jobber (as Francessa says) after a K? Shut up. \r\nI generally don\'t like that stuff, but when a team does it in your face, there\'s nothing wrong with sticking it back to them.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Another “talking point” today is the Reyes jaunt around the bases after his HR. You know what? Phillie fans, shut up. Any team with Victorino and Rollins has nothing to say about cockiness. Yankee fans, do you watch the games when A-Rod flips the bat and stares into the Yankee dugout? Do you watch Jobber (as Francessa says) after a K? Shut up.
I generally don’t like that stuff, but when a team does it in your face, there’s nothing wrong with sticking it back to them.
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]]> By: David in Manhattan http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-83551 David in Manhattan Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:12:21 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-83551 (oops...Rollins, that is...not Roland)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('83551','David in Manhattan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('83551','David in Manhattan','(oops...Rollins, that is...not Roland)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> (oops…Rollins, that is…not Roland)
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]]> By: David in Manhattan http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-83439 David in Manhattan Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:07:15 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-83439 On the ESPN broadcast of the Mets 6-3 win, the on-air commentary of Dave O'Brien and Buck Showalter was irritating. In the wake of our 9th inning phizzle on Tuesday, their Talking Points for the game were about the ineptness of the Mets, the power and dominance of the Phillies, and a whole length-of-broadcast rave about Roland and Utley. They might as well have been Honus Wagner and Rogers Hornsby. When they went to commercial between innings, they would say that next inning Roland will be batting third, so don't go away...stuff like that. No matter that the Mets have ownd the Phillies this year, that the Phillies have collapsed after their hot April and May, that Roland-Utley-Howard-Burrell are batting a combined .260 or so (and probably .220 since the beginning of June), that this month the Mets are the hottest team in the majors (though the "CC's" in Milwaukee are making a serious play now), and that the Phils are sinking. OK, so O'Brien and Showalter are jerks, and the game taking place on the field undermined most of their Talking Point babble...cool. But one of the things they kept saying was that the Mets' fans had given up on this team, and on several of the players, that the team has underperformed and been booed at home, etc. In other words, when we get too negative on our guys, people notice...the players themselves obviously, but also the rest of the country, and it extends the negativity. And despite all that, look who is back in first!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('83439','David in Manhattan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('83439','David in Manhattan','On the ESPN broadcast of the Mets 6-3 win, the on-air commentary of Dave O\'Brien and Buck Showalter was irritating. In the wake of our 9th inning phizzle on Tuesday, their Talking Points for the game were about the ineptness of the Mets, the power and dominance of the Phillies, and a whole length-of-broadcast rave about Roland and Utley. They might as well have been Honus Wagner and Rogers Hornsby. When they went to commercial between innings, they would say that next inning Roland will be batting third, so don\'t go away...stuff like that. \r\n\r\nNo matter that the Mets have ownd the Phillies this year, that the Phillies have collapsed after their hot April and May, that Roland-Utley-Howard-Burrell are batting a combined .260 or so (and probably .220 since the beginning of June), that this month the Mets are the hottest team in the majors (though the \"CC\'s\" in Milwaukee are making a serious play now), and that the Phils are sinking.\r\n\r\nOK, so O\'Brien and Showalter are jerks, and the game taking place on the field undermined most of their Talking Point babble...cool. But one of the things they kept saying was that the Mets\' fans had given up on this team, and on several of the players, that the team has underperformed and been booed at home, etc. In other words, when we get too negative on our guys, people notice...the players themselves obviously, but also the rest of the country, and it extends the negativity. \r\n\r\nAnd despite all that, look who is back in first!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> On the ESPN broadcast of the Mets 6-3 win, the on-air commentary of Dave O’Brien and Buck Showalter was irritating. In the wake of our 9th inning phizzle on Tuesday, their Talking Points for the game were about the ineptness of the Mets, the power and dominance of the Phillies, and a whole length-of-broadcast rave about Roland and Utley. They might as well have been Honus Wagner and Rogers Hornsby. When they went to commercial between innings, they would say that next inning Roland will be batting third, so don’t go away…stuff like that.

No matter that the Mets have ownd the Phillies this year, that the Phillies have collapsed after their hot April and May, that Roland-Utley-Howard-Burrell are batting a combined .260 or so (and probably .220 since the beginning of June), that this month the Mets are the hottest team in the majors (though the “CC’s” in Milwaukee are making a serious play now), and that the Phils are sinking.

OK, so O’Brien and Showalter are jerks, and the game taking place on the field undermined most of their Talking Point babble…cool. But one of the things they kept saying was that the Mets’ fans had given up on this team, and on several of the players, that the team has underperformed and been booed at home, etc. In other words, when we get too negative on our guys, people notice…the players themselves obviously, but also the rest of the country, and it extends the negativity.

And despite all that, look who is back in first!

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]]> By: David in Manhattan http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-83434 David in Manhattan Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:31:14 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-83434 GerardK, I don't understand what more you want from Jose Reyes. He is one of the top players in the game, he works hard, he is enthusiastic, he creates runs, the Mets have improved dramatically since he arrived, he dances merengue on ESPN, and if he plays another dozen or more years at this level he could wind up in the Hall of Fame. But what, he throws his glove when he is upset and he doesn't do interviews? And this is REALLY upsetting? I don't get it.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('83434','David in Manhattan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('83434','David in Manhattan','GerardK, I don\'t understand what more you want from Jose Reyes. He is one of the top players in the game, he works hard, he is enthusiastic, he creates runs, the Mets have improved dramatically since he arrived, he dances merengue on ESPN, and if he plays another dozen or more years at this level he could wind up in the Hall of Fame.\r\n\r\nBut what, he throws his glove when he is upset and he doesn\'t do interviews? And this is REALLY upsetting? \r\n\r\nI don\'t get it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> GerardK, I don’t understand what more you want from Jose Reyes. He is one of the top players in the game, he works hard, he is enthusiastic, he creates runs, the Mets have improved dramatically since he arrived, he dances merengue on ESPN, and if he plays another dozen or more years at this level he could wind up in the Hall of Fame.

But what, he throws his glove when he is upset and he doesn’t do interviews? And this is REALLY upsetting?

I don’t get it.

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]]> By: GerardK http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-83116 GerardK Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:07:57 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-83116 So, it was nice to see Jose Reyes stick around after the game again and stand up and face the media. Once again, the complete list of baseball fundamentals was on shining display by the most overrated player the Mets have trotted out there in the last 20 years. He is a disgrace. He is a frontrunner who hides from the media and the fans when things go south, but he is the consumate frontrunner and hot dog when they're rolling, right? Didn't they get rid of Lastings Milledge for this behavior. Oh, I forgot. Here comes the excuse. Reyes is just a kid. He needs time to mature. Give him time. Excuse me, he's 25!!! How long are we, the fans, going to wait??!!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('83116','GerardK'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('83116','GerardK','So, it was nice to see Jose Reyes stick around after the game again and stand up and face the media. Once again, the complete list of baseball fundamentals was on shining display by the most overrated player the Mets have trotted out there in the last 20 years. He is a disgrace. He is a frontrunner who hides from the media and the fans when things go south, but he is the consumate frontrunner and hot dog when they\'re rolling, right? Didn\'t they get rid of Lastings Milledge for this behavior. Oh, I forgot. Here comes the excuse. Reyes is just a kid. He needs time to mature. Give him time. Excuse me, he\'s 25!!! How long are we, the fans, going to wait??!!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> So, it was nice to see Jose Reyes stick around after the game again and stand up and face the media. Once again, the complete list of baseball fundamentals was on shining display by the most overrated player the Mets have trotted out there in the last 20 years. He is a disgrace. He is a frontrunner who hides from the media and the fans when things go south, but he is the consumate frontrunner and hot dog when they’re rolling, right? Didn’t they get rid of Lastings Milledge for this behavior. Oh, I forgot. Here comes the excuse. Reyes is just a kid. He needs time to mature. Give him time. Excuse me, he’s 25!!! How long are we, the fans, going to wait??!!
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]]> By: David in Manhattan http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-83099 David in Manhattan Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:54:41 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-83099 I agree that if he knew Wagner was not available, J-Gangsta should have sent Santana back out there for the 9th. But I am aready ok with the loss, tough as it was. We thoroughly outplayed them from the 2nd to the 8th inning, our guys were close to scoring a bundle of extra runs but line drives were caught, and we know would have won if Wagner had been available. When we lost it in the 9th, it was cause the Phils got some good swings from some unlikely contributors and a bit of luck all at the right time...they stole it from us on late heroics. This stuff can happen, but seldom. Watch us go get 2 of 3 this series.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('83099','David in Manhattan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('83099','David in Manhattan','I agree that if he knew Wagner was not available, J-Gangsta should have sent Santana back out there for the 9th.\r\n\r\nBut I am aready ok with the loss, tough as it was. We thoroughly outplayed them from the 2nd to the 8th inning, our guys were close to scoring a bundle of extra runs but line drives were caught, and we know would have won if Wagner had been available. When we lost it in the 9th, it was cause the Phils got some good swings from some unlikely contributors and a bit of luck all at the right time...they stole it from us on late heroics. This stuff can happen, but seldom.\r\n\r\nWatch us go get 2 of 3 this series.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree that if he knew Wagner was not available, J-Gangsta should have sent Santana back out there for the 9th.

But I am aready ok with the loss, tough as it was. We thoroughly outplayed them from the 2nd to the 8th inning, our guys were close to scoring a bundle of extra runs but line drives were caught, and we know would have won if Wagner had been available. When we lost it in the 9th, it was cause the Phils got some good swings from some unlikely contributors and a bit of luck all at the right time…they stole it from us on late heroics. This stuff can happen, but seldom.

Watch us go get 2 of 3 this series.

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]]> By: Paul http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-83066 Paul Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:22:58 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-83066 Sorry, while they played like mental midgets throughout most of the game, the fact of the matter is that you took out the guy that is supposed to be your best pitcher, who was not even struggling, and put in your seventh best pitcher at best. End of story. Chalk up another loss for the Tony Larussation of baseball and "pitch counts". They are a load of crap. We are not talking about a 21 year old fresh out of college or high school (okay, they only have 21 year old high schoolers in NYC schools. I know I am one of the ones trying to get them kicked out), we are talking about an ace in his physical prime, why was it even in the thought process? And I would say that even if Wagner was "available to pitch".<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('83066','Paul'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('83066','Paul','Sorry, while they played like mental midgets throughout most of the game, the fact of the matter is that you took out the guy that is supposed to be your best pitcher, who was not even struggling, and put in your seventh best pitcher at best. End of story. Chalk up another loss for the Tony Larussation of baseball and \"pitch counts\". They are a load of crap. We are not talking about a 21 year old fresh out of college or high school (okay, they only have 21 year old high schoolers in NYC schools. I know I am one of the ones trying to get them kicked out), we are talking about an ace in his physical prime, why was it even in the thought process? And I would say that even if Wagner was \"available to pitch\".'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Sorry, while they played like mental midgets throughout most of the game, the fact of the matter is that you took out the guy that is supposed to be your best pitcher, who was not even struggling, and put in your seventh best pitcher at best. End of story. Chalk up another loss for the Tony Larussation of baseball and “pitch counts”. They are a load of crap. We are not talking about a 21 year old fresh out of college or high school (okay, they only have 21 year old high schoolers in NYC schools. I know I am one of the ones trying to get them kicked out), we are talking about an ace in his physical prime, why was it even in the thought process? And I would say that even if Wagner was “available to pitch”.
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]]> By: will http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/07/23/put-it-in-the-books-another-mets-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-82862 will Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:07:08 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=492#comment-82862 I live on the west coast so by the time I got home the 9th was just starting. Yeah it was a disaster, it happens. Sure Santana should have been out there but with a three run lead you have to expect your pen can get three outs or you've got no business contending for the division anyway. That said, here's one positive. After the 6th run top of the 9th I didn't turn off the game. I believed the Mets had some fight in them and they did, at least a little. They worked the count on Lidge and even pushed a run across. Would you have expected that from them six weeks ago? I would have expected first pitch swinging and a quick exit a few weeks back. It's a crappy loss in a game they should have won but I'm not disheartened by it. I'm looking forward to tonight's game.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('82862','will'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('82862','will','I live on the west coast so by the time I got home the 9th was just starting. Yeah it was a disaster, it happens. Sure Santana should have been out there but with a three run lead you have to expect your pen can get three outs or you\'ve got no business contending for the division anyway. \r\n\r\nThat said, here\'s one positive. After the 6th run top of the 9th I didn\'t turn off the game. I believed the Mets had some fight in them and they did, at least a little. They worked the count on Lidge and even pushed a run across. Would you have expected that from them six weeks ago? I would have expected first pitch swinging and a quick exit a few weeks back. \r\n\r\nIt\'s a crappy loss in a game they should have won but I\'m not disheartened by it. I\'m looking forward to tonight\'s game.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I live on the west coast so by the time I got home the 9th was just starting. Yeah it was a disaster, it happens. Sure Santana should have been out there but with a three run lead you have to expect your pen can get three outs or you’ve got no business contending for the division anyway.

That said, here’s one positive. After the 6th run top of the 9th I didn’t turn off the game. I believed the Mets had some fight in them and they did, at least a little. They worked the count on Lidge and even pushed a run across. Would you have expected that from them six weeks ago? I would have expected first pitch swinging and a quick exit a few weeks back.

It’s a crappy loss in a game they should have won but I’m not disheartened by it. I’m looking forward to tonight’s game.

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