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		<title>By: Stork</title>
		<link>http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/02/mets-musings/comment-page-1/#comment-115670</link>
		<dc:creator>Stork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am angry. Justifiably angry at what is happening to this team.

My anger comes out in words, which are essenitally harmless - this is america, correct?

Nice try on comparing my undiplomatic posts to &#039;gangstas&#039; but only a complete idiot would fall for that. 

Your comment is laughable...I&#039;m a tax-paying, law-abiding citizen who is ranting bc his beloved team sucks and is, to boot, devolving into a politcally-correct, gansta-lovin&#039; embarrassment. When I kill a cop or rape a &#039;ho then perhaps my &#039;anger&#039; (ranting at omar, jerry, etc.) will be comparable.

Also - on the subject of anger - it&#039;s time for Met fans to be angry. I can handle 90 loss seasons. I can handle the Art Howe debacle. What infuriates me is watching the Mets spend $135M AND suck AND reward failure (extending omar) AND hire someone with no experience (Willie) AND tolerate jerry manuel&#039;s creepy, offensive act AND turn the in-game experience into a garish carnival of loud &#039;music&#039; AND etc etc etc.

It&#039;s time to get angry at the Wilpons for this mess. I&#039;ll use words and my wallet, not guns, knives, bats, etc. that real &#039;gangstas&#039; would use.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115670&#039;,&#039;Stork&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115670&#039;,&#039;Stork&#039;,&#039;I am angry. Justifiably angry at what is happening to this team.\r\n\r\nMy anger comes out in words, which are essenitally harmless - this is america, correct?\r\n\r\nNice try on comparing my undiplomatic posts to \&#039;gangstas\&#039; but only a complete idiot would fall for that. \r\n\r\nYour comment is laughable...I\&#039;m a tax-paying, law-abiding citizen who is ranting bc his beloved team sucks and is, to boot, devolving into a politcally-correct, gansta-lovin\&#039; embarrassment. When I kill a cop or rape a \&#039;ho then perhaps my \&#039;anger\&#039; (ranting at omar, jerry, etc.) will be comparable.\r\n\r\nAlso - on the subject of anger - it\&#039;s time for Met fans to be angry. I can handle 90 loss seasons. I can handle the Art Howe debacle. What infuriates me is watching the Mets spend $135M AND suck AND reward failure (extending omar) AND hire someone with no experience (Willie) AND tolerate jerry manuel\&#039;s creepy, offensive act AND turn the in-game experience into a garish carnival of loud \&#039;music\&#039; AND etc etc etc.\r\n\r\nIt\&#039;s time to get angry at the Wilpons for this mess. I\&#039;ll use words and my wallet, not guns, knives, bats, etc. that real \&#039;gangstas\&#039; would use.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am angry. Justifiably angry at what is happening to this team.</p>
<p>My anger comes out in words, which are essenitally harmless &#8211; this is america, correct?</p>
<p>Nice try on comparing my undiplomatic posts to &#8216;gangstas&#8217; but only a complete idiot would fall for that. </p>
<p>Your comment is laughable&#8230;I&#8217;m a tax-paying, law-abiding citizen who is ranting bc his beloved team sucks and is, to boot, devolving into a politcally-correct, gansta-lovin&#8217; embarrassment. When I kill a cop or rape a &#8216;ho then perhaps my &#8216;anger&#8217; (ranting at omar, jerry, etc.) will be comparable.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; on the subject of anger &#8211; it&#8217;s time for Met fans to be angry. I can handle 90 loss seasons. I can handle the Art Howe debacle. What infuriates me is watching the Mets spend $135M AND suck AND reward failure (extending omar) AND hire someone with no experience (Willie) AND tolerate jerry manuel&#8217;s creepy, offensive act AND turn the in-game experience into a garish carnival of loud &#8216;music&#8217; AND etc etc etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to get angry at the Wilpons for this mess. I&#8217;ll use words and my wallet, not guns, knives, bats, etc. that real &#8216;gangstas&#8217; would use.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('115670','Stork'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('115670','Stork','I am angry. Justifiably angry at what is happening to this team.\r\n\r\nMy anger comes out in words, which are essenitally harmless - this is america, correct?\r\n\r\nNice try on comparing my undiplomatic posts to \'gangstas\' but only a complete idiot would fall for that. \r\n\r\nYour comment is laughable...I\'m a tax-paying, law-abiding citizen who is ranting bc his beloved team sucks and is, to boot, devolving into a politcally-correct, gansta-lovin\' embarrassment. When I kill a cop or rape a \'ho then perhaps my \'anger\' (ranting at omar, jerry, etc.) will be comparable.\r\n\r\nAlso - on the subject of anger - it\'s time for Met fans to be angry. I can handle 90 loss seasons. I can handle the Art Howe debacle. What infuriates me is watching the Mets spend $135M AND suck AND reward failure (extending omar) AND hire someone with no experience (Willie) AND tolerate jerry manuel\'s creepy, offensive act AND turn the in-game experience into a garish carnival of loud \'music\' AND etc etc etc.\r\n\r\nIt\'s time to get angry at the Wilpons for this mess. I\'ll use words and my wallet, not guns, knives, bats, etc. that real \'gangstas\' would use.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: John Q</title>
		<link>http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/02/mets-musings/comment-page-1/#comment-115625</link>
		<dc:creator>John Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see why Jerry Manuel should come back. Willie was basically fired for last year&#039;s colapse, why is Manuel being re-hired. Now he&#039;s asking for more money??

The media loves him because he gives them good quotes. &quot;He&#039;s gansta&quot; what was that all about? That press conference reminded me of Saturday Night Live sketch. Say what you will against Willie Randolph at least he was professional.

Also firing Rick Peterson was a huge mistake. He&#039;s one of the smartest men in baseball and the Mets had him under contract.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115625&#039;,&#039;John Q&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115625&#039;,&#039;John Q&#039;,&#039;I don\&#039;t see why Jerry Manuel should come back. Willie was basically fired for last year\&#039;s colapse, why is Manuel being re-hired. Now he\&#039;s asking for more money??\r\n\r\nThe media loves him because he gives them good quotes. \&quot;He\&#039;s gansta\&quot; what was that all about? That press conference reminded me of Saturday Night Live sketch. Say what you will against Willie Randolph at least he was professional.\r\n\r\nAlso firing Rick Peterson was a huge mistake. He\&#039;s one of the smartest men in baseball and the Mets had him under contract.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why Jerry Manuel should come back. Willie was basically fired for last year&#8217;s colapse, why is Manuel being re-hired. Now he&#8217;s asking for more money??</p>
<p>The media loves him because he gives them good quotes. &#8220;He&#8217;s gansta&#8221; what was that all about? That press conference reminded me of Saturday Night Live sketch. Say what you will against Willie Randolph at least he was professional.</p>
<p>Also firing Rick Peterson was a huge mistake. He&#8217;s one of the smartest men in baseball and the Mets had him under contract.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('115625','John Q'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('115625','John Q','I don\'t see why Jerry Manuel should come back. Willie was basically fired for last year\'s colapse, why is Manuel being re-hired. Now he\'s asking for more money??\r\n\r\nThe media loves him because he gives them good quotes. \&quot;He\'s gansta\&quot; what was that all about? That press conference reminded me of Saturday Night Live sketch. Say what you will against Willie Randolph at least he was professional.\r\n\r\nAlso firing Rick Peterson was a huge mistake. He\'s one of the smartest men in baseball and the Mets had him under contract.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: John Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please explain to me how Omar get&#039;s a 4 year extension?? 

1-Pedro Martinez deal 44 million(disaster)
2-El Duque deal 12 million (disaster)
3-Moises Alou deal (2008) 8 million (disaster)
4-Luis Castillo deal 24 million (disaster)

88 million dollars for one good year out of Pedro??

1-Heath Bell trade (disaster)
2-Brian Banister trade (disaster)
3-Matt Lindstrom trade (disaster)

1-Delgado-Jacobs (Wash)
2-Perez/Hernandez-Nady (Wash)

I could really think of only two trades he made that were good:

Benson-Maine/Julio

Santana-Gomez/Humber + 2

They talk about what a great job he did?? He almost doubled the payroll I hope he increased the win total after spending all of that money.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115623&#039;,&#039;John Q&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115623&#039;,&#039;John Q&#039;,&#039;Please explain to me how Omar get\&#039;s a 4 year extension?? \r\n\r\n1-Pedro Martinez deal 44 million(disaster)\r\n2-El Duque deal 12 million (disaster)\r\n3-Moises Alou deal (2008) 8 million (disaster)\r\n4-Luis Castillo deal 24 million (disaster)\r\n\r\n88 million dollars for one good year out of Pedro??\r\n\r\n1-Heath Bell trade (disaster)\r\n2-Brian Banister trade (disaster)\r\n3-Matt Lindstrom trade (disaster)\r\n\r\n1-Delgado-Jacobs (Wash)\r\n2-Perez\/Hernandez-Nady (Wash)\r\n\r\nI could really think of only two trades he made that were good:\r\n\r\nBenson-Maine\/Julio\r\n\r\nSantana-Gomez\/Humber + 2\r\n\r\nThey talk about what a great job he did?? He almost doubled the payroll I hope he increased the win total after spending all of that money.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please explain to me how Omar get&#8217;s a 4 year extension?? </p>
<p>1-Pedro Martinez deal 44 million(disaster)<br />
2-El Duque deal 12 million (disaster)<br />
3-Moises Alou deal (2008) 8 million (disaster)<br />
4-Luis Castillo deal 24 million (disaster)</p>
<p>88 million dollars for one good year out of Pedro??</p>
<p>1-Heath Bell trade (disaster)<br />
2-Brian Banister trade (disaster)<br />
3-Matt Lindstrom trade (disaster)</p>
<p>1-Delgado-Jacobs (Wash)<br />
2-Perez/Hernandez-Nady (Wash)</p>
<p>I could really think of only two trades he made that were good:</p>
<p>Benson-Maine/Julio</p>
<p>Santana-Gomez/Humber + 2</p>
<p>They talk about what a great job he did?? He almost doubled the payroll I hope he increased the win total after spending all of that money.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('115623','John Q'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('115623','John Q','Please explain to me how Omar get\'s a 4 year extension?? \r\n\r\n1-Pedro Martinez deal 44 million(disaster)\r\n2-El Duque deal 12 million (disaster)\r\n3-Moises Alou deal (2008) 8 million (disaster)\r\n4-Luis Castillo deal 24 million (disaster)\r\n\r\n88 million dollars for one good year out of Pedro??\r\n\r\n1-Heath Bell trade (disaster)\r\n2-Brian Banister trade (disaster)\r\n3-Matt Lindstrom trade (disaster)\r\n\r\n1-Delgado-Jacobs (Wash)\r\n2-Perez\/Hernandez-Nady (Wash)\r\n\r\nI could really think of only two trades he made that were good:\r\n\r\nBenson-Maine\/Julio\r\n\r\nSantana-Gomez\/Humber + 2\r\n\r\nThey talk about what a great job he did?? He almost doubled the payroll I hope he increased the win total after spending all of that money.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: kranepool</title>
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		<dc:creator>kranepool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sense a lot of anger in you Stork, for a guy who is against &quot;gangsta&#039;s&quot; who seem to have alot of that trait in you.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115619&#039;,&#039;kranepool&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115619&#039;,&#039;kranepool&#039;,&#039;I sense a lot of anger in you Stork, for a guy who is against \&quot;gangsta\&#039;s\&quot; who seem to have alot of that trait in you.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sense a lot of anger in you Stork, for a guy who is against &#8220;gangsta&#8217;s&#8221; who seem to have alot of that trait in you.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('115619','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('115619','kranepool','I sense a lot of anger in you Stork, for a guy who is against \&quot;gangsta\'s\&quot; who seem to have alot of that trait in you.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: stork</title>
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		<dc:creator>stork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And we need a few nasty pricks on this team.&quot;

Well....here ya go....how about killing two people and driving away? VERY, VERY &#039;gangsta&#039;, isn&#039;t it?

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081002&amp;content_id=3582832&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&amp;partnerId=rss_mlb&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115532&#039;,&#039;stork&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115532&#039;,&#039;stork&#039;,&#039;\&quot;And we need a few nasty pricks on this team.\&quot;\r\n\r\nWell....here ya go....how about killing two people and driving away? VERY, VERY \&#039;gangsta\&#039;, isn\&#039;t it?\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/mlb.mlb.com\/news\/article.jsp?ymd=20081002&amp;content_id=3582832&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&amp;partnerId=rss_mlb&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And we need a few nasty pricks on this team.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well&#8230;.here ya go&#8230;.how about killing two people and driving away? VERY, VERY &#8216;gangsta&#8217;, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081002&amp;content_id=3582832&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&amp;partnerId=rss_mlb" rel="nofollow">http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081002&amp;content_id=3582832&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&amp;partnerId=rss_mlb</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('115532','stork'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('115532','stork','\&quot;And we need a few nasty pricks on this team.\&quot;\r\n\r\nWell....here ya go....how about killing two people and driving away? VERY, VERY \'gangsta\', isn\'t it?\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/mlb.mlb.com\/news\/article.jsp?ymd=20081002&amp;amp;content_id=3582832&amp;amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;amp;fext=.jsp&amp;amp;c_id=mlb&amp;amp;partnerId=rss_mlb'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless, of course, you want to bring back Bobby V...nut job but a great manager.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115529&#039;,&#039;Paul&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115529&#039;,&#039;Paul&#039;,&#039;Unless, of course, you want to bring back Bobby V...nut job but a great manager.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless, of course, you want to bring back Bobby V&#8230;nut job but a great manager.
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backman for MGR...I can deal with Manny, as long as he follows K-Rod. And we need a few nasty pricks on this team.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115528&#039;,&#039;Paul&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115528&#039;,&#039;Paul&#039;,&#039;Backman for MGR...I can deal with Manny, as long as he follows K-Rod. And we need a few nasty pricks on this team.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backman for MGR&#8230;I can deal with Manny, as long as he follows K-Rod. And we need a few nasty pricks on this team.
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		<title>By: Stork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How low do the Mets need to sink before you are happy?

AJ Per-zee (can&#039;t spell his name): kneed Giants trainer Stan Conti in the balls. Go look up the story. He&#039;s a nasty prick.

Manny Ramirez - not worth it at any price. Guaranteed drama and headache. Would be right in line with Omar&#039;s playbook tho because he has 500 HRs and 1,500 RBIs BEHIND HIM. Also - another punk who shows up pitchers.

&quot;J-Man&quot; - a creepy, smarmy weirdo. Should thank god he has an MLB manager offer on the table but he&#039;s going to negotiate??? The only team in the world who would sign this guy, who was at the helm for Collapse: The Sequel is the NYM. Tell him don&#039;t let the door hit you on the way out.

And Gary Carter as a backup offer? Wrong - the reason we&#039;re in this mess is that we already gave the mgr job to someone too arrogant to pay his dues learning the craft in the minors. Carter thinks being a catcher and HOF earns a get out of AA managing job card, go directly to the big leagues. 

The best mgrs are guys like Oberkfell (who pay dues on long bus trips to Macon, GA, etc.) or guys like Torre, whose first MLB manager job is in a low risk (ie, the team SUCKS) situation.

The Mets you seem to desire are a nightmare. Bad GM (you love him); street punk whacko manager (you love him); catcher and &#039;team leader&#039; who is HATED everywhere and is modestly talented (you love him) and a backup manager choice who carries the same hole in his resume that Willie had.

You are going up the river like Captain Kurtz. The horror. The horror.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115497&#039;,&#039;Stork&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115497&#039;,&#039;Stork&#039;,&#039;How low do the Mets need to sink before you are happy?\r\n\r\nAJ Per-zee (can\&#039;t spell his name): kneed Giants trainer Stan Conti in the balls. Go look up the story. He\&#039;s a nasty prick.\r\n\r\nManny Ramirez - not worth it at any price. Guaranteed drama and headache. Would be right in line with Omar\&#039;s playbook tho because he has 500 HRs and 1,500 RBIs BEHIND HIM. Also - another punk who shows up pitchers.\r\n\r\n\&quot;J-Man\&quot; - a creepy, smarmy weirdo. Should thank god he has an MLB manager offer on the table but he\&#039;s going to negotiate??? The only team in the world who would sign this guy, who was at the helm for Collapse: The Sequel is the NYM. Tell him don\&#039;t let the door hit you on the way out.\r\n\r\nAnd Gary Carter as a backup offer? Wrong - the reason we\&#039;re in this mess is that we already gave the mgr job to someone too arrogant to pay his dues learning the craft in the minors. Carter thinks being a catcher and HOF earns a get out of AA managing job card, go directly to the big leagues. \r\n\r\nThe best mgrs are guys like Oberkfell (who pay dues on long bus trips to Macon, GA, etc.) or guys like Torre, whose first MLB manager job is in a low risk (ie, the team SUCKS) situation.\r\n\r\nThe Mets you seem to desire are a nightmare. Bad GM (you love him); street punk whacko manager (you love him); catcher and \&#039;team leader\&#039; who is HATED everywhere and is modestly talented (you love him) and a backup manager choice who carries the same hole in his resume that Willie had.\r\n\r\nYou are going up the river like Captain Kurtz. The horror. The horror.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How low do the Mets need to sink before you are happy?</p>
<p>AJ Per-zee (can&#8217;t spell his name): kneed Giants trainer Stan Conti in the balls. Go look up the story. He&#8217;s a nasty prick.</p>
<p>Manny Ramirez &#8211; not worth it at any price. Guaranteed drama and headache. Would be right in line with Omar&#8217;s playbook tho because he has 500 HRs and 1,500 RBIs BEHIND HIM. Also &#8211; another punk who shows up pitchers.</p>
<p>&#8220;J-Man&#8221; &#8211; a creepy, smarmy weirdo. Should thank god he has an MLB manager offer on the table but he&#8217;s going to negotiate??? The only team in the world who would sign this guy, who was at the helm for Collapse: The Sequel is the NYM. Tell him don&#8217;t let the door hit you on the way out.</p>
<p>And Gary Carter as a backup offer? Wrong &#8211; the reason we&#8217;re in this mess is that we already gave the mgr job to someone too arrogant to pay his dues learning the craft in the minors. Carter thinks being a catcher and HOF earns a get out of AA managing job card, go directly to the big leagues. </p>
<p>The best mgrs are guys like Oberkfell (who pay dues on long bus trips to Macon, GA, etc.) or guys like Torre, whose first MLB manager job is in a low risk (ie, the team SUCKS) situation.</p>
<p>The Mets you seem to desire are a nightmare. Bad GM (you love him); street punk whacko manager (you love him); catcher and &#8216;team leader&#8217; who is HATED everywhere and is modestly talented (you love him) and a backup manager choice who carries the same hole in his resume that Willie had.</p>
<p>You are going up the river like Captain Kurtz. The horror. The horror.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('115497','Stork'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('115497','Stork','How low do the Mets need to sink before you are happy?\r\n\r\nAJ Per-zee (can\'t spell his name): kneed Giants trainer Stan Conti in the balls. Go look up the story. He\'s a nasty prick.\r\n\r\nManny Ramirez - not worth it at any price. Guaranteed drama and headache. Would be right in line with Omar\'s playbook tho because he has 500 HRs and 1,500 RBIs BEHIND HIM. Also - another punk who shows up pitchers.\r\n\r\n\&quot;J-Man\&quot; - a creepy, smarmy weirdo. Should thank god he has an MLB manager offer on the table but he\'s going to negotiate??? The only team in the world who would sign this guy, who was at the helm for Collapse: The Sequel is the NYM. Tell him don\'t let the door hit you on the way out.\r\n\r\nAnd Gary Carter as a backup offer? Wrong - the reason we\'re in this mess is that we already gave the mgr job to someone too arrogant to pay his dues learning the craft in the minors. Carter thinks being a catcher and HOF earns a get out of AA managing job card, go directly to the big leagues. \r\n\r\nThe best mgrs are guys like Oberkfell (who pay dues on long bus trips to Macon, GA, etc.) or guys like Torre, whose first MLB manager job is in a low risk (ie, the team SUCKS) situation.\r\n\r\nThe Mets you seem to desire are a nightmare. Bad GM (you love him); street punk whacko manager (you love him); catcher and \'team leader\' who is HATED everywhere and is modestly talented (you love him) and a backup manager choice who carries the same hole in his resume that Willie had.\r\n\r\nYou are going up the river like Captain Kurtz. The horror. The horror.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: CharlieH</title>
		<link>http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/02/mets-musings/comment-page-1/#comment-115474</link>
		<dc:creator>CharlieH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on, Steve.

And I hope to God Omar reads the OBSERVER...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115474&#039;,&#039;CharlieH&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115474&#039;,&#039;CharlieH&#039;,&#039;Spot on, Steve.\r\n\r\nAnd I hope to God Omar reads the OBSERVER...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on, Steve.</p>
<p>And I hope to God Omar reads the OBSERVER&#8230;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('115474','CharlieH'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('115474','CharlieH','Spot on, Steve.\r\n\r\nAnd I hope to God Omar reads the OBSERVER...'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: murth</title>
		<link>http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/02/mets-musings/comment-page-1/#comment-115468</link>
		<dc:creator>murth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kranepool,

No self respecting new yorker uses &quot;y&#039;all&quot; ever.  If you must it&#039;s yous.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;115468&#039;,&#039;murth&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;115468&#039;,&#039;murth&#039;,&#039;kranepool,\r\n\r\nNo self respecting new yorker uses \&quot;y\&#039;all\&quot; ever.  If you must it\&#039;s yous.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kranepool,</p>
<p>No self respecting new yorker uses &#8220;y&#8217;all&#8221; ever.  If you must it&#8217;s yous.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('115468','murth'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('115468','murth','kranepool,\r\n\r\nNo self respecting new yorker uses \&quot;y\'all\&quot; ever.  If you must it\'s yous.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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