Comments on: REBUTTAL TIME http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ceetar http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-117236 Ceetar Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:56:01 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-117236 I was agreeing with you about the security(Still could care less how they, or anyone else, dresses). Just..I don't know what we can do besides bitch about it. I did, here (http://upperreservedmetsfan.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-i-got-kicked-out-of-shea-stadium.html). by ignoring, I didn't mean not talk about it, I mean literally ignore the guards, As long as what I'm doing is legit. (Walking around the stadium, etc, I just ignore them if they try to talk to me, ask for my ticket, etc) It was 'affordable' to me too. I had a saturday plan. went to 20+ games. Was at Opening/Closing day. Had/have money in for playoffs. It's still the cheapest of the sports. You can still (next year) get into the stadium for most games for the same price as a movie ticket, or two Venti Frappachinos. If the Mets didn't spend money, and do things like this it would be hard to compete. No Johan, Beltran, etc. It's unfortunate, but it's the truth. I agree, they probably could do a lot more for the fans, but what you seem to expect is more than we deserve, and more than they need to give us. Walking on the field? when was that ever a fan benefit? 1895? (Well, probably well into the 30s or later). Jerry is a joke manager, it's not who would I want, it's just _anyone_ else. Willie obviously wasn't the problem, or at least, it wasn't specifically him but an organizational thing that Jerry was part of. Outside blood and perspective is needed. It's not the players, it's the use of the players.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('117236','Ceetar'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('117236','Ceetar','I was agreeing with you about the security(Still could care less how they, or anyone else, dresses). Just..I don\'t know what we can do besides bitch about it. I did, here (http:\/\/upperreservedmetsfan.blogspot.com\/2007\/06\/how-i-got-kicked-out-of-shea-stadium.html). by ignoring, I didn\'t mean not talk about it, I mean literally ignore the guards, As long as what I\'m doing is legit. (Walking around the stadium, etc, I just ignore them if they try to talk to me, ask for my ticket, etc)\r\n\r\nIt was \'affordable\' to me too. I had a saturday plan. went to 20+ games. Was at Opening\/Closing day. Had\/have money in for playoffs. It\'s still the cheapest of the sports. You can still (next year) get into the stadium for most games for the same price as a movie ticket, or two Venti Frappachinos. If the Mets didn\'t spend money, and do things like this it would be hard to compete. No Johan, Beltran, etc. It\'s unfortunate, but it\'s the truth. \r\n\r\nI agree, they probably could do a lot more for the fans, but what you seem to expect is more than we deserve, and more than they need to give us. Walking on the field? when was that ever a fan benefit? 1895? (Well, probably well into the 30s or later). \r\n\r\nJerry is a joke manager, it\'s not who would I want, it\'s just _anyone_ else. Willie obviously wasn\'t the problem, or at least, it wasn\'t specifically him but an organizational thing that Jerry was part of. Outside blood and perspective is needed. It\'s not the players, it\'s the use of the players.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I was agreeing with you about the security(Still could care less how they, or anyone else, dresses). Just..I don’t know what we can do besides bitch about it. I did, here (http://upperreservedmetsfan.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-i-got-kicked-out-of-shea-stadium.html). by ignoring, I didn’t mean not talk about it, I mean literally ignore the guards, As long as what I’m doing is legit. (Walking around the stadium, etc, I just ignore them if they try to talk to me, ask for my ticket, etc)

It was ‘affordable’ to me too. I had a saturday plan. went to 20+ games. Was at Opening/Closing day. Had/have money in for playoffs. It’s still the cheapest of the sports. You can still (next year) get into the stadium for most games for the same price as a movie ticket, or two Venti Frappachinos. If the Mets didn’t spend money, and do things like this it would be hard to compete. No Johan, Beltran, etc. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the truth.

I agree, they probably could do a lot more for the fans, but what you seem to expect is more than we deserve, and more than they need to give us. Walking on the field? when was that ever a fan benefit? 1895? (Well, probably well into the 30s or later).

Jerry is a joke manager, it’s not who would I want, it’s just _anyone_ else. Willie obviously wasn’t the problem, or at least, it wasn’t specifically him but an organizational thing that Jerry was part of. Outside blood and perspective is needed. It’s not the players, it’s the use of the players.

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]]> By: Michael Leggett http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-117159 Michael Leggett Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:51:30 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-117159 WHEN Darren Oliver and Chad Bradford were ordered dumped, methinks on Jeffy's Orders, I knew that 'pen was in big time trouble: I forget just how many times at the sight of Schowenweiss, I would scream "Please, No", when he came in and f--ked things up.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('117159','Michael Leggett'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('117159','Michael Leggett','WHEN Darren Oliver and Chad Bradford were ordered dumped, methinks on Jeffy\'s Orders, I knew that \'pen was in big time trouble:\r\n\r\nI forget just how many times at the sight of Schowenweiss, I would scream \"Please, No\", when he came in and f--ked things up.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> WHEN Darren Oliver and Chad Bradford were ordered dumped, methinks on Jeffy’s Orders, I knew that ‘pen was in big time trouble:

I forget just how many times at the sight of Schowenweiss, I would scream “Please, No”, when he came in and f–ked things up.

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]]> By: John Q http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-117083 John Q Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:20:26 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-117083 Their a very good team but they're unbalanced. They have 4 star (A) position players and 1 star (A) pitcher. The problem is they don't have many (B) players. Most of the rest of the team is filled with journey-man players, washed up stars and players that really should be platoon players. They have a terrible bullpen. But in reality the Mets would have won the N.L. east if they had any sort of bullpen. Baseball Prospectus has a stat called WXRL. It's the best stat to measure the success of relief pitchers. Not surprisingly the Mets ranked dead last in the Nationlal League. The highest ranking relief pitcher on the Mets was Duaner Sanchez and he ranked 54th overall. They Mets remind me a lot of the 1990's Seattle Mariners.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('117083','John Q'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('117083','John Q','Their a very good team but they\'re unbalanced. They have 4 star (A) position players and 1 star (A) pitcher. The problem is they don\'t have many (B) players. Most of the rest of the team is filled with journey-man players, washed up stars and players that really should be platoon players. They have a terrible bullpen. \r\n\r\nBut in reality the Mets would have won the N.L. east if they had any sort of bullpen. Baseball Prospectus has a stat called WXRL. It\'s the best stat to measure the success of relief pitchers. Not surprisingly the Mets ranked dead last in the Nationlal League. The highest ranking relief pitcher on the Mets was Duaner Sanchez and he ranked 54th overall.\r\n\r\nThey Mets remind me a lot of the 1990\'s Seattle Mariners.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Their a very good team but they’re unbalanced. They have 4 star (A) position players and 1 star (A) pitcher. The problem is they don’t have many (B) players. Most of the rest of the team is filled with journey-man players, washed up stars and players that really should be platoon players. They have a terrible bullpen.

But in reality the Mets would have won the N.L. east if they had any sort of bullpen. Baseball Prospectus has a stat called WXRL. It’s the best stat to measure the success of relief pitchers. Not surprisingly the Mets ranked dead last in the Nationlal League. The highest ranking relief pitcher on the Mets was Duaner Sanchez and he ranked 54th overall.

They Mets remind me a lot of the 1990′s Seattle Mariners.

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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-117062 kranepool Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:57:02 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-117062 Not exactly breaking new ground here philsphan all Wally did was read this site and other Mets blogs and repeat what has been said here the Mets may have the best collection of talent in the league but they are an not the good team. When you can never win the BIG one and your pen blows 29 saves you are what you are not very good . As much as I kill the Skill Sets even they have to be enbarassed by this team and J-Man has hinted the same that more commited winning players are need more "we" than "me" guys<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('117062','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('117062','kranepool','Not exactly breaking new ground here philsphan all Wally did was read this site and other Mets blogs and repeat what has been said here the Mets may have the best collection of talent in the league but they are an not the good team. When you can never win the BIG one and your pen blows 29 saves you are what you are not very good . As much as I kill the Skill Sets even they have to be enbarassed by this team and J-Man has hinted the same that more commited winning players are need more \"we\" than \"me\" guys'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Not exactly breaking new ground here philsphan all Wally did was read this site and other Mets blogs and repeat what has been said here the Mets may have the best collection of talent in the league but they are an not the good team. When you can never win the BIG one and your pen blows 29 saves you are what you are not very good . As much as I kill the Skill Sets even they have to be enbarassed by this team and J-Man has hinted the same that more commited winning players are need more “we” than “me” guys
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]]> By: Michael Leggett http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-117005 Michael Leggett Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:57:38 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-117005 Time For "The $kill $ets" to GET OUT: They would go to Port St Lonesome, to avoid REAL Fans<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('117005','Michael Leggett'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('117005','Michael Leggett','Time For \"The $kill $ets\" to GET OUT:\r\n\r\nThey would go to Port St Lonesome, to avoid REAL Fans'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Time For “The $kill $ets” to GET OUT:

They would go to Port St Lonesome, to avoid REAL Fans

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]]> By: philsphan http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-116949 philsphan Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:47:02 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-116949 I like this article: http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spwallyx1012,0,2425085.column Ha!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('116949','philsphan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('116949','philsphan','I like this article:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.newsday.com\/sports\/baseball\/mets\/ny-spwallyx1012,0,2425085.column\r\n\r\nHa!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I like this article:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spwallyx1012,0,2425085.column

Ha!

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]]> By: Stork http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-116943 Stork Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:24:47 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-116943 "Do you go through life just ignoring assholes?" No - that's why I'm here, amazed and appalled at the things you write.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('116943','Stork'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('116943','Stork','\"Do you go through life just ignoring assholes?\"\r\n\r\nNo - that\'s why I\'m here, amazed and appalled at the things you write.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> “Do you go through life just ignoring assholes?”

No – that’s why I’m here, amazed and appalled at the things you write.

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]]> By: John Q http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-116908 John Q Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:55:32 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-116908 My bad. The Ketchup/Mustard dispenser is at $285 right now. But don't lose hope there are still 19 days left. No wonder that security guard was staring at me at the mustard dispenser. They actually have a sign for the family toilet selling for $285. I'm not making that up. Why would anyone want something like that?? "Look honey, that's the sign from where I took my last shit at Shea Stadium"<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('116908','John Q'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('116908','John Q','My bad. The Ketchup\/Mustard dispenser is at $285 right now. But don\'t lose hope there are still 19 days left.\r\n\r\nNo wonder that security guard was staring at me at the mustard dispenser.\r\n\r\nThey actually have a sign for the family toilet selling for $285. I\'m not making that up.\r\n\r\nWhy would anyone want something like that??\r\n\r\n\"Look honey, that\'s the sign from where I took my last shit at Shea Stadium\"'); return false;">Quote</a></div> My bad. The Ketchup/Mustard dispenser is at $285 right now. But don’t lose hope there are still 19 days left.

No wonder that security guard was staring at me at the mustard dispenser.

They actually have a sign for the family toilet selling for $285. I’m not making that up.

Why would anyone want something like that??

“Look honey, that’s the sign from where I took my last shit at Shea Stadium”

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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-116904 kranepool Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:43:36 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-116904 Just think what will happen in 20 years when Jeffey Skill Sets moves the Mets to that growing metropolis of Port St. Lonesome what kind of auction they will have at Bailout Field<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('116904','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('116904','kranepool','Just think what will happen in 20 years when Jeffey Skill Sets moves the Mets to that growing metropolis of Port St. Lonesome what kind of auction they will have at Bailout Field'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Just think what will happen in 20 years when Jeffey Skill Sets moves the Mets to that growing metropolis of Port St. Lonesome what kind of auction they will have at Bailout Field
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]]> By: John Q http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2008/10/11/rebuttal-time/comment-page-1/#comment-116902 John Q Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:41:10 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=799#comment-116902 I was at the game on Sept. 10th and I swear all the cops and security guards were running all over the place making sure no-one took anything. I was afraid some security guard was going to lock me up for taking too many mustard packs. I was looking at the Shea memorabilia the Mets have auctioned. They had a crapy mustard and ketchup dispenser going for something like $600 dollars?? What the fuck?? I might give you $40 bucks for something like that but 600?? No wonder were in such a mess in this country with people spending 600 dollars on shit like that. If you ever get a chance take a look at what happened when they were ready to knock down Ebbets Field. They basically gave away pieces of the scoreboard, turnstiles, pennants, banners for next to nothing. "You want the 1953 National League Pennant" ok how about $5.00? Try and look at pictures from that auction an Ebbets Field. It was extremely bizarre. They had 3 midgets dressed as ball players with clown make-up running around while some guy was auctioning off the board with "Snider" written on it that was used for the manuel scoreboard. "How much?" $2.50?? "that's too expensive, I'll give you $1.75. Sold!!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('116902','John Q'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('116902','John Q','I was at the game on Sept. 10th and I swear all the cops and security guards were running all over the place making sure no-one took anything. I was afraid some security guard was going to lock me up for taking too many mustard packs.\r\n\r\nI was looking at the Shea memorabilia the Mets have auctioned. They had a crapy mustard and ketchup dispenser going for something like $600 dollars?? What the fuck?? I might give you $40 bucks for something like that but 600?? No wonder were in such a mess in this country with people spending 600 dollars on shit like that.\r\n\r\nIf you ever get a chance take a look at what happened when they were ready to knock down Ebbets Field. They basically gave away pieces of the scoreboard, turnstiles, pennants, banners for next to nothing. \"You want the 1953 National League Pennant\" ok how about $5.00?\r\n\r\nTry and look at pictures from that auction an Ebbets Field. It was extremely bizarre. They had 3 midgets dressed as ball players with clown make-up running around while some guy was auctioning off the board with \"Snider\" written on it that was used for the manuel scoreboard. \"How much?\" $2.50?? \"that\'s too expensive, I\'ll give you $1.75. Sold!!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I was at the game on Sept. 10th and I swear all the cops and security guards were running all over the place making sure no-one took anything. I was afraid some security guard was going to lock me up for taking too many mustard packs.

I was looking at the Shea memorabilia the Mets have auctioned. They had a crapy mustard and ketchup dispenser going for something like $600 dollars?? What the fuck?? I might give you $40 bucks for something like that but 600?? No wonder were in such a mess in this country with people spending 600 dollars on shit like that.

If you ever get a chance take a look at what happened when they were ready to knock down Ebbets Field. They basically gave away pieces of the scoreboard, turnstiles, pennants, banners for next to nothing. “You want the 1953 National League Pennant” ok how about $5.00?

Try and look at pictures from that auction an Ebbets Field. It was extremely bizarre. They had 3 midgets dressed as ball players with clown make-up running around while some guy was auctioning off the board with “Snider” written on it that was used for the manuel scoreboard. “How much?” $2.50?? “that’s too expensive, I’ll give you $1.75. Sold!!

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