Comments on: ME-ET THE ME-TS http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/02/15/me-et-the-me-ts/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:27:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Marvin Lesman http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/02/15/me-et-the-me-ts/comment-page-1/#comment-135744 Marvin Lesman Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:32:40 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1297#comment-135744 Pete S has put it well.... there goes the steals and Reyes is the answer to the non signing of Manny... This is, hopefully, just a joke..because that would destroy the line-up (at least the 1-6 spots)... A number 3 hitter needs to drive in runs and be a power hitter (think Mantle and Ruth)... Unless , the Mets believe that BankruptCiti Field is a place where HRs go to die and they want to build a team like the Gas House Gang they will need to shed themselves of the following: Delgado Schnieder Castro Church Too slow and way too inconsistant.... So what type of team do they want to have???<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('135744','Marvin Lesman'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('135744','Marvin Lesman','Pete S has put it well.... there goes the steals and Reyes is the answer to the non signing of Manny...\r\n\r\nThis is, hopefully, just a joke..because that would destroy the line-up (at least the 1-6 spots)... A number 3 hitter needs to drive in runs and be a power hitter (think Mantle and Ruth)... Unless , the Mets believe that BankruptCiti Field is a place where HRs go to die and they want to build a team like the Gas House Gang they will need to shed themselves of the following:\r\n\r\nDelgado\r\nSchnieder\r\nCastro\r\nChurch\r\n\r\nToo slow and way too inconsistant....\r\n\r\nSo what type of team do they want to have???'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Pete S has put it well…. there goes the steals and Reyes is the answer to the non signing of Manny…

This is, hopefully, just a joke..because that would destroy the line-up (at least the 1-6 spots)… A number 3 hitter needs to drive in runs and be a power hitter (think Mantle and Ruth)… Unless , the Mets believe that BankruptCiti Field is a place where HRs go to die and they want to build a team like the Gas House Gang they will need to shed themselves of the following:

Delgado
Schnieder
Castro
Church

Too slow and way too inconsistant….

So what type of team do they want to have???

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]]> By: whozgotnext http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/02/15/me-et-the-me-ts/comment-page-1/#comment-135636 whozgotnext Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:58:15 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1297#comment-135636 Hey all. Welcome back to baseball. I also think that Castillo is a problem wherever he hits, but the damage, ironically, might be least in the leadoff spot. As to Reyes hitting 3rd, I think that the guy is just growing into his talent, and with Wright and Delgado hitting right behind him, could easily see him hitting .320, with 20 HR and 120 RBI in that spot, while picking his spots more on the basepaths and still swiping a very meaningful 40. Those RBI, of course, will come easier if we have a leadoff guy on base occasionally. Sigh.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('135636','whozgotnext'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('135636','whozgotnext','Hey all. Welcome back to baseball.\r\n\r\nI also think that Castillo is a problem wherever he hits, but the damage, ironically, might be least in the leadoff spot. \r\n\r\nAs to Reyes hitting 3rd, I think that the guy is just growing into his talent, and with Wright and Delgado hitting right behind him, could easily see him hitting .320, with 20 HR and 120 RBI in that spot, while picking his spots more on the basepaths and still swiping a very meaningful 40. \r\n\r\nThose RBI, of course, will come easier if we have a leadoff guy on base occasionally. Sigh.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hey all. Welcome back to baseball.

I also think that Castillo is a problem wherever he hits, but the damage, ironically, might be least in the leadoff spot.

As to Reyes hitting 3rd, I think that the guy is just growing into his talent, and with Wright and Delgado hitting right behind him, could easily see him hitting .320, with 20 HR and 120 RBI in that spot, while picking his spots more on the basepaths and still swiping a very meaningful 40.

Those RBI, of course, will come easier if we have a leadoff guy on base occasionally. Sigh.

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]]> By: James Preller http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/02/15/me-et-the-me-ts/comment-page-1/#comment-135598 James Preller Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:08:56 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1297#comment-135598 Point taken on the hating. I realize it's not good. But I really, really don't like his game. Can't stand watching him at the plate. The body language, everything. And frankly, I think Jerry Manuel took a look at him last year, gimping and limping and asking for days off because of soreness, and Jerry sent him to the outhouse. That was pretty obvious. Losing Jose Valentin was a real blow to the Mets, IMO. The guy was a leader -- a ballplayer -- and had enough pop to be productive and dangerous in the 7-hole. Obviously, you should be able to recover from losing a guy like Valentine, but when the solution is Argenis Reyes or Joey Cora, your still stuck back in 1965. In terms of the lineup, I like Murphy/Church in the two-spot. I want to give those ABs to hitters who can turn on a fastball, do some damage. Again, Castillo at leadoff woudn't be terrible . . . for an average team . . . that didn't already have JOSE REYES. On the Mets, every solution we come up with for Castillo's sorry bat hurts the overall lineup in some new way.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('135598','James Preller'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('135598','James Preller','Point taken on the hating. I realize it\'s not good. But I really, really don\'t like his game. Can\'t stand watching him at the plate. The body language, everything. And frankly, I think Jerry Manuel took a look at him last year, gimping and limping and asking for days off because of soreness, and Jerry sent him to the outhouse. That was pretty obvious. Losing Jose Valentin was a real blow to the Mets, IMO. The guy was a leader -- a ballplayer -- and had enough pop to be productive and dangerous in the 7-hole. Obviously, you should be able to recover from losing a guy like Valentine, but when the solution is Argenis Reyes or Joey Cora, your still stuck back in 1965. \r\n\r\nIn terms of the lineup, I like Murphy\/Church in the two-spot. I want to give those ABs to hitters who can turn on a fastball, do some damage. Again, Castillo at leadoff woudn\'t be terrible . . . for an average team . . . that didn\'t already have JOSE REYES. On the Mets, every solution we come up with for Castillo\'s sorry bat hurts the overall lineup in some new way.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Point taken on the hating. I realize it’s not good. But I really, really don’t like his game. Can’t stand watching him at the plate. The body language, everything. And frankly, I think Jerry Manuel took a look at him last year, gimping and limping and asking for days off because of soreness, and Jerry sent him to the outhouse. That was pretty obvious. Losing Jose Valentin was a real blow to the Mets, IMO. The guy was a leader — a ballplayer — and had enough pop to be productive and dangerous in the 7-hole. Obviously, you should be able to recover from losing a guy like Valentine, but when the solution is Argenis Reyes or Joey Cora, your still stuck back in 1965.

In terms of the lineup, I like Murphy/Church in the two-spot. I want to give those ABs to hitters who can turn on a fastball, do some damage. Again, Castillo at leadoff woudn’t be terrible . . . for an average team . . . that didn’t already have JOSE REYES. On the Mets, every solution we come up with for Castillo’s sorry bat hurts the overall lineup in some new way.

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]]> By: David in Manhattan http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/02/15/me-et-the-me-ts/comment-page-1/#comment-135594 David in Manhattan Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:30:30 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1297#comment-135594 I agree with you Steve, and with you, James (except on hating the guy...no need for that). Castillo can probably work enough walks and infield hits to get on .350 or more, and run the bases well enough to score 100 runs on this Mets team, if he stays healthy. Remember, the Mets were just about tied for the NL lead in runs last year, and making Castillo into an integral part, instead of just an 8-hole out, is smart baseball. With this creative move, the line-up gets stonger all the way down the row. Of course, Orlando Hudson would look mighty good at 2B, and no Manny, but that is just wishful thinking. Remember, that asshole Bernie Made-off with $300K of Met Money this winter. Now THERE'S someone you can legitimately hate, James.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('135594','David in Manhattan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('135594','David in Manhattan','I agree with you Steve, and with you, James (except on hating the guy...no need for that). Castillo can probably work enough walks and infield hits to get on .350 or more, and run the bases well enough to score 100 runs on this Mets team, if he stays healthy. Remember, the Mets were just about tied for the NL lead in runs last year, and making Castillo into an integral part, instead of just an 8-hole out, is smart baseball. With this creative move, the line-up gets stonger all the way down the row. Of course, Orlando Hudson would look mighty good at 2B, and no Manny, but that is just wishful thinking. Remember, that asshole Bernie Made-off with $300K of Met Money this winter. Now THERE\'S someone you can legitimately hate, James.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree with you Steve, and with you, James (except on hating the guy…no need for that). Castillo can probably work enough walks and infield hits to get on .350 or more, and run the bases well enough to score 100 runs on this Mets team, if he stays healthy. Remember, the Mets were just about tied for the NL lead in runs last year, and making Castillo into an integral part, instead of just an 8-hole out, is smart baseball. With this creative move, the line-up gets stonger all the way down the row. Of course, Orlando Hudson would look mighty good at 2B, and no Manny, but that is just wishful thinking. Remember, that asshole Bernie Made-off with $300K of Met Money this winter. Now THERE’S someone you can legitimately hate, James.
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]]> By: Kay http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/02/15/me-et-the-me-ts/comment-page-1/#comment-135593 Kay Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:16:15 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1297#comment-135593 Wow - I know I'm in the minority, but I just don't understand all the hatred for Castillo, sure 4 years was WAY too long, I know this, but looking at his overall stats for his career his numbers are better then Hudson's (who everyone is screamng for), not to mention his health is always in question too. Also, JM said he's pondering it, and its Spring Training, but reading around at different sites people are already on edge to jump off the ledge. How is he a bump and lazy if he has the career numbers he does? I don't get that, sure 08 was not a good year (oh yeah except he had decent numbers In May when everyone else was in the tank)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('135593','Kay'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('135593','Kay','Wow - I know I\'m in the minority, but I just don\'t understand all the hatred for Castillo, sure 4 years was WAY too long, I know this, but looking at his overall stats for his career his numbers are better then Hudson\'s (who everyone is screamng for), not to mention his health is always in question too.\r\n\r\nAlso, JM said he\'s pondering it, and its Spring Training, but reading around at different sites people are already on edge to jump off the ledge.\r\n\r\nHow is he a bump and lazy if he has the career numbers he does? I don\'t get that, sure 08 was not a good year (oh yeah except he had decent numbers In May when everyone else was in the tank)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Wow – I know I’m in the minority, but I just don’t understand all the hatred for Castillo, sure 4 years was WAY too long, I know this, but looking at his overall stats for his career his numbers are better then Hudson’s (who everyone is screamng for), not to mention his health is always in question too.

Also, JM said he’s pondering it, and its Spring Training, but reading around at different sites people are already on edge to jump off the ledge.

How is he a bump and lazy if he has the career numbers he does? I don’t get that, sure 08 was not a good year (oh yeah except he had decent numbers In May when everyone else was in the tank)

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]]> By: Pete S http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/02/15/me-et-the-me-ts/comment-page-1/#comment-135539 Pete S Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:34:35 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1297#comment-135539 There goes all the steals! Reyes hitting third is the Mets answer to not having Manny in the middle of the lineup? LMAO!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('135539','Pete S'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('135539','Pete S','There goes all the steals! \r\nReyes hitting third is the Mets answer to not having Manny in the middle of the lineup?\r\nLMAO!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> There goes all the steals!
Reyes hitting third is the Mets answer to not having Manny in the middle of the lineup?
LMAO!
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]]> By: James Preller http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/02/15/me-et-the-me-ts/comment-page-1/#comment-135457 James Preller Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:38:45 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1297#comment-135457 I hate Castillo, and have hated him for his entire career (despite his usefulness, glove, good OBP in his early years). One of the worst contracts ever -- four years, bidding against no one. Same with Perez, btw, three years at $12 per, when Garland signs for one. Again, Omar bidding against no one. While there is upside with Ollie, we all know he could go south. Anyway, on Castillo: I think his ONLY offensive value in MLB is as a leadoff hitter. Forget the Mets for a minute, just look at Castillo. He still gets on base, works counts, can go from first to third. But as a hitter, he can't drive in someone from second base because the outfield is so shallow. The days of "productive outs," while not gone, have faded; now you want the two-slot for someone who can actually hit. Why put an out between your leadoff man and your best three hitters? As a #8 hitter, Castillo is even worse. He won't be able to drive anyone in, almost ever, and consequently takes the bat out of the #7 hitter's hands. It's a negative ripple effect through the order. Except at leadoff. However, the Mets already have a great leadoff hitter. So Castillo does not, and never did have, any offensive value to this team. Plus he's a bum, he's lazy, he's breaking down physically, and there's nothing worse than a speed-only guy who loses two steps. All those infield hits become outs. For another team, as a leadoff hitter, Castillo might have some small value. For the Mets, he's a drag on the entire lineup. So I understand Manuel's thought in moving Castillo to #1 -- but at the same time, it's another more evidence of his overall uselessness to this club. We have Reyes already doing a better job. JP<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('135457','James Preller'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('135457','James Preller','I hate Castillo, and have hated him for his entire career (despite his usefulness, glove, good OBP in his early years). One of the worst contracts ever -- four years, bidding against no one. Same with Perez, btw, three years at $12 per, when Garland signs for one. Again, Omar bidding against no one. While there is upside with Ollie, we all know he could go south. \r\n\r\nAnyway, on Castillo: I think his ONLY offensive value in MLB is as a leadoff hitter. Forget the Mets for a minute, just look at Castillo. He still gets on base, works counts, can go from first to third. But as a hitter, he can\'t drive in someone from second base because the outfield is so shallow. The days of \"productive outs,\" while not gone, have faded; now you want the two-slot for someone who can actually hit. Why put an out between your leadoff man and your best three hitters? As a #8 hitter, Castillo is even worse. He won\'t be able to drive anyone in, almost ever, and consequently takes the bat out of the #7 hitter\'s hands. It\'s a negative ripple effect through the order. Except at leadoff. However, the Mets already have a great leadoff hitter. So Castillo does not, and never did have, any offensive value to this team. \r\n\r\nPlus he\'s a bum, he\'s lazy, he\'s breaking down physically, and there\'s nothing worse than a speed-only guy who loses two steps. All those infield hits become outs. For another team, as a leadoff hitter, Castillo might have some small value. For the Mets, he\'s a drag on the entire lineup. So I understand Manuel\'s thought in moving Castillo to #1 -- but at the same time, it\'s another more evidence of his overall uselessness to this club. We have Reyes already doing a better job. \r\n\r\nJP'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I hate Castillo, and have hated him for his entire career (despite his usefulness, glove, good OBP in his early years). One of the worst contracts ever — four years, bidding against no one. Same with Perez, btw, three years at $12 per, when Garland signs for one. Again, Omar bidding against no one. While there is upside with Ollie, we all know he could go south.

Anyway, on Castillo: I think his ONLY offensive value in MLB is as a leadoff hitter. Forget the Mets for a minute, just look at Castillo. He still gets on base, works counts, can go from first to third. But as a hitter, he can’t drive in someone from second base because the outfield is so shallow. The days of “productive outs,” while not gone, have faded; now you want the two-slot for someone who can actually hit. Why put an out between your leadoff man and your best three hitters? As a #8 hitter, Castillo is even worse. He won’t be able to drive anyone in, almost ever, and consequently takes the bat out of the #7 hitter’s hands. It’s a negative ripple effect through the order. Except at leadoff. However, the Mets already have a great leadoff hitter. So Castillo does not, and never did have, any offensive value to this team.

Plus he’s a bum, he’s lazy, he’s breaking down physically, and there’s nothing worse than a speed-only guy who loses two steps. All those infield hits become outs. For another team, as a leadoff hitter, Castillo might have some small value. For the Mets, he’s a drag on the entire lineup. So I understand Manuel’s thought in moving Castillo to #1 — but at the same time, it’s another more evidence of his overall uselessness to this club. We have Reyes already doing a better job.

JP

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