Comments on: A CARLOS DELGADO DOING THE HIPPY-HIPPY-SHAKE http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/05/29/a-carlos-delgado-doing-the-hippy-hippy-shake/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/05/29/a-carlos-delgado-doing-the-hippy-hippy-shake/comment-page-1/#comment-148551 Eagle Sat, 30 May 2009 10:51:16 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1728#comment-148551 I didn't see much of Piazza's career as a Met, but I always cut a little slack for catchers. Their legs take a battering compared with other players.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('148551','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('148551','Eagle','I didn\'t see much of Piazza\'s career as a Met, but I always cut a little slack for catchers. Their legs take a battering compared with other players.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I didn’t see much of Piazza’s career as a Met, but I always cut a little slack for catchers. Their legs take a battering compared with other players.
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]]> By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/05/29/a-carlos-delgado-doing-the-hippy-hippy-shake/comment-page-1/#comment-148550 Eagle Sat, 30 May 2009 10:48:56 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1728#comment-148550 Kranepool, You know that it was practically my first question on this site way back when that I wanted to know what happened to the way pitchers pitch and the way they are handled. I'd been cut off from baseball for about a dozen years and in that time we got the cult of the closer - every team had to have one even when few had a Suter or a Rivera & 100 pitches was a night's work, regardless of what inning it was. How many innings did Seaver or Matlack or Swan or ... or whoever throw when I was a kid. 200+ was a minimum, no? I'm sure Koosman threw more than 250 innings many times. What led to this change? Was it possibly that all the juiced ballplayers were taking their toll - mentally as well as physically - on pitchers?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('148550','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('148550','Eagle','Kranepool,\r\n\r\nYou know that it was practically my first question on this site way back when that I wanted to know what happened to the way pitchers pitch and the way they are handled. I\'d been cut off from baseball for about a dozen years and in that time we got the cult of the closer - every team had to have one even when few had a Suter or a Rivera & 100 pitches was a night\'s work, regardless of what inning it was.\r\n\r\nHow many innings did Seaver or Matlack or Swan or ... or whoever throw when I was a kid. 200+ was a minimum, no? I\'m sure Koosman threw more than 250 innings many times. What led to this change? Was it possibly that all the juiced ballplayers were taking their toll - mentally as well as physically - on pitchers?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Kranepool,

You know that it was practically my first question on this site way back when that I wanted to know what happened to the way pitchers pitch and the way they are handled. I’d been cut off from baseball for about a dozen years and in that time we got the cult of the closer – every team had to have one even when few had a Suter or a Rivera & 100 pitches was a night’s work, regardless of what inning it was.

How many innings did Seaver or Matlack or Swan or … or whoever throw when I was a kid. 200+ was a minimum, no? I’m sure Koosman threw more than 250 innings many times. What led to this change? Was it possibly that all the juiced ballplayers were taking their toll – mentally as well as physically – on pitchers?

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]]> By: Bob B http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/05/29/a-carlos-delgado-doing-the-hippy-hippy-shake/comment-page-1/#comment-148546 Bob B Sat, 30 May 2009 10:30:38 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1728#comment-148546 Hey, Nobody in franchise history dogged it to first base on a grounder to second more than my all time favorite Met, #17.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('148546','Bob B'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('148546','Bob B','Hey, Nobody in franchise history dogged it to first base on a grounder to second more than my all time favorite Met, #17.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hey, Nobody in franchise history dogged it to first base on a grounder to second more than my all time favorite Met, #17.
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]]> By: Paul http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/05/29/a-carlos-delgado-doing-the-hippy-hippy-shake/comment-page-1/#comment-148522 Paul Fri, 29 May 2009 20:15:16 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1728#comment-148522 Krane, I am in total agreement with you on the pitch count thing. The best thing that you can hope for, short of the third world's championship in Flushing, is in a few years a Rangers championship (or better yet a few of them) where they win because they have starters that average 7-8 innings as a team so that the copy cats that are professional sports teams follow suit.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('148522','Paul'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('148522','Paul','Krane,\r\n\r\nI am in total agreement with you on the pitch count thing. The best thing that you can hope for, short of the third world\'s championship in Flushing, is in a few years a Rangers championship (or better yet a few of them) where they win because they have starters that average 7-8 innings as a team so that the copy cats that are professional sports teams follow suit.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Krane,

I am in total agreement with you on the pitch count thing. The best thing that you can hope for, short of the third world’s championship in Flushing, is in a few years a Rangers championship (or better yet a few of them) where they win because they have starters that average 7-8 innings as a team so that the copy cats that are professional sports teams follow suit.

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]]> By: CharlieH http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/05/29/a-carlos-delgado-doing-the-hippy-hippy-shake/comment-page-1/#comment-148521 CharlieH Fri, 29 May 2009 16:31:35 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1728#comment-148521 For goodness sake...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('148521','CharlieH'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('148521','CharlieH','For goodness sake...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> For goodness sake…
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]]> By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/05/29/a-carlos-delgado-doing-the-hippy-hippy-shake/comment-page-1/#comment-148519 Rich Fri, 29 May 2009 15:22:22 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1728#comment-148519 Ah, yes, our GM. He has actually done significant business with my company (I've never met him) and everyone who has met him says he's the nicest man on the planet. He actually chooses to do interviews and tv spots in his home in NJ, and people say he's a prince. I don't doubt it. He has that "normal guy" thing that you feel you can hoist a pint of Guiness with him. But as a GM....I think you all know what I think.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('148519','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('148519','Rich','Ah, yes, our GM. He has actually done significant business with my company (I\'ve never met him) and everyone who has met him says he\'s the nicest man on the planet. He actually chooses to do interviews and tv spots in his home in NJ, and people say he\'s a prince. I don\'t doubt it. He has that \"normal guy\" thing that you feel you can hoist a pint of Guiness with him. But as a GM....I think you all know what I think.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Ah, yes, our GM. He has actually done significant business with my company (I’ve never met him) and everyone who has met him says he’s the nicest man on the planet. He actually chooses to do interviews and tv spots in his home in NJ, and people say he’s a prince. I don’t doubt it. He has that “normal guy” thing that you feel you can hoist a pint of Guiness with him. But as a GM….I think you all know what I think.
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/05/29/a-carlos-delgado-doing-the-hippy-hippy-shake/comment-page-1/#comment-148518 kranepool Fri, 29 May 2009 15:13:34 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1728#comment-148518 Rich I just heard part of the interview on the Joe and Evan show and they are killing Minaya and rightly so. Omar embarassed himslef in that interview by taking fans and comentators to task about the lack of hustle on this team. Check out the interview at http://www.wfan.com<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('148518','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('148518','kranepool','Rich I just heard part of the interview on the Joe and Evan show and they are killing Minaya and rightly so. Omar embarassed himslef in that interview by taking fans and comentators to task about the lack of hustle on this team. Check out the interview at http:\/\/www.wfan.com'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Rich I just heard part of the interview on the Joe and Evan show and they are killing Minaya and rightly so. Omar embarassed himslef in that interview by taking fans and comentators to task about the lack of hustle on this team. Check out the interview at http://www.wfan.com
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]]> By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/05/29/a-carlos-delgado-doing-the-hippy-hippy-shake/comment-page-1/#comment-148517 Rich Fri, 29 May 2009 14:50:40 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1728#comment-148517 Omar gave an ear-bleeding interview to Boomer and Carton this morning. Asked about F-Mart's lack of hustle, he said that it would do no good to reprimand him. Whatever. Here's the pisser, though. They asked Omar about Reyes not hustling, and he said, "That's people's perception that he does not hustle. He's put thousands of balls in play and he hustles most of the time." There ya go, folks. It is in the culture that hustling "most of the time" is ok. And we yell and scream about this stuff? Why bother? The GM says that is it ok, so we have to accept it as part of the NYM culture. We don't have to like it, but as long as they don't get upset about it, why should we? I love being in first place, but you know, it is kind of funny that a team a fundamentally un-sound as the Mets can be there. But let's enjoy it anyway,<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('148517','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('148517','Rich','Omar gave an ear-bleeding interview to Boomer and Carton this morning. Asked about F-Mart\'s lack of hustle, he said that it would do no good to reprimand him. Whatever. Here\'s the pisser, though. They asked Omar about Reyes not hustling, and he said, \"That\'s people\'s perception that he does not hustle. He\'s put thousands of balls in play and he hustles most of the time.\" There ya go, folks. It is in the culture that hustling \"most of the time\" is ok. And we yell and scream about this stuff? Why bother? The GM says that is it ok, so we have to accept it as part of the NYM culture. We don\'t have to like it, but as long as they don\'t get upset about it, why should we? I love being in first place, but you know, it is kind of funny that a team a fundamentally un-sound as the Mets can be there. But let\'s enjoy it anyway,'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Omar gave an ear-bleeding interview to Boomer and Carton this morning. Asked about F-Mart’s lack of hustle, he said that it would do no good to reprimand him. Whatever. Here’s the pisser, though. They asked Omar about Reyes not hustling, and he said, “That’s people’s perception that he does not hustle. He’s put thousands of balls in play and he hustles most of the time.” There ya go, folks. It is in the culture that hustling “most of the time” is ok. And we yell and scream about this stuff? Why bother? The GM says that is it ok, so we have to accept it as part of the NYM culture. We don’t have to like it, but as long as they don’t get upset about it, why should we? I love being in first place, but you know, it is kind of funny that a team a fundamentally un-sound as the Mets can be there. But let’s enjoy it anyway,
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