Comments on: TRAINING DAY http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/06/24/training-day/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: George the Stork http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/06/24/training-day/comment-page-1/#comment-150940 George the Stork Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:00:40 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1823#comment-150940 <a href='#comment-150910' rel="nofollow">@Rich</a> - Good point, Rich, about Church. I completely agree. I wonder how much this mini-resurgence of his has to do with Sheff being out. Being anointed the cleanup hitter by default may be what Church needs. He may be the type of guy who thrives when told "you're the man". This season is starting to really pick up for me. It's a lot sweeter when you win as underdog. With the team decimated, no one expects them to win, and it would be easy to just mail it in. Maybe I'm being dramatic here, but this is starting to feel a little like 1984, when after years of Pete Falcone and Brian Boisclair, we came out of nowhere with Hernandez and a bunch of people no one ever heard of. This could be a fun summer.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('150940','George the Stork'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('150940','George the Stork','<a href=\'#comment-150910\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Rich<\/a> - Good point, Rich, about Church. I completely agree. I wonder how much this mini-resurgence of his has to do with Sheff being out. Being anointed the cleanup hitter by default may be what Church needs. He may be the type of guy who thrives when told \"you\'re the man\".\r\n\r\nThis season is starting to really pick up for me. It\'s a lot sweeter when you win as underdog. With the team decimated, no one expects them to win, and it would be easy to just mail it in. Maybe I\'m being dramatic here, but this is starting to feel a little like 1984, when after years of Pete Falcone and Brian Boisclair, we came out of nowhere with Hernandez and a bunch of people no one ever heard of. This could be a fun summer.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Rich – Good point, Rich, about Church. I completely agree. I wonder how much this mini-resurgence of his has to do with Sheff being out. Being anointed the cleanup hitter by default may be what Church needs. He may be the type of guy who thrives when told “you’re the man”.

This season is starting to really pick up for me. It’s a lot sweeter when you win as underdog. With the team decimated, no one expects them to win, and it would be easy to just mail it in. Maybe I’m being dramatic here, but this is starting to feel a little like 1984, when after years of Pete Falcone and Brian Boisclair, we came out of nowhere with Hernandez and a bunch of people no one ever heard of. This could be a fun summer.

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]]> By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/06/24/training-day/comment-page-1/#comment-150933 Eagle Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:44:10 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1823#comment-150933 Any chance Ottawa would take Oliver Perez along with Drury for Heatley? I definitely don't want to see him back on the mound until (a) Maine proves he can't go and (b) Perez proves he's better than any other option - Redding, Hernandez, Nieve. By the way, if I'm not mistaken Hernandez has a recent history of being a better first half pitcher than second half. Maybe I should check stats first, but that's my impression.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('150933','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('150933','Eagle','Any chance Ottawa would take Oliver Perez along with Drury for Heatley? I definitely don\'t want to see him back on the mound until (a) Maine proves he can\'t go and (b) Perez proves he\'s better than any other option - Redding, Hernandez, Nieve.\r\n\r\nBy the way, if I\'m not mistaken Hernandez has a recent history of being a better first half pitcher than second half. Maybe I should check stats first, but that\'s my impression.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Any chance Ottawa would take Oliver Perez along with Drury for Heatley? I definitely don’t want to see him back on the mound until (a) Maine proves he can’t go and (b) Perez proves he’s better than any other option – Redding, Hernandez, Nieve.

By the way, if I’m not mistaken Hernandez has a recent history of being a better first half pitcher than second half. Maybe I should check stats first, but that’s my impression.

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]]> By: Eagle http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/06/24/training-day/comment-page-1/#comment-150932 Eagle Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:42:23 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1823#comment-150932 Both pitchers going the distance? Wow. I thought those days were gone for good. However, (and I may have already written this) I've been wondering if the end of the steroids era will mean a return to the type of pitching we were used to back before the era of the "quality start". The hitters are not what they were and pitchers should be able to make more mistakes with the bottom of the order. In other words, they should make fewer pitches to 7-9 in the order.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('150932','Eagle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('150932','Eagle','Both pitchers going the distance? Wow. I thought those days were gone for good.\r\n\r\nHowever, (and I may have already written this) I\'ve been wondering if the end of the steroids era will mean a return to the type of pitching we were used to back before the era of the \"quality start\". The hitters are not what they were and pitchers should be able to make more mistakes with the bottom of the order. In other words, they should make fewer pitches to 7-9 in the order.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Both pitchers going the distance? Wow. I thought those days were gone for good.

However, (and I may have already written this) I’ve been wondering if the end of the steroids era will mean a return to the type of pitching we were used to back before the era of the “quality start”. The hitters are not what they were and pitchers should be able to make more mistakes with the bottom of the order. In other words, they should make fewer pitches to 7-9 in the order.

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]]> By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/06/24/training-day/comment-page-1/#comment-150910 Rich Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:30:07 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1823#comment-150910 I liked Nieve about 10 pitches into his Mets career. He threw inside and almost hit Teixiera. Yeah, baby. Establish inside first, make them think in there, then work them away. Have some balls like Nieve, all the rest of you guys on the staff. How much do we need Church to hit like this the rest of the way? I have said all along that what the Mets get from him will be the key to this team.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('150910','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('150910','Rich','I liked Nieve about 10 pitches into his Mets career. He threw inside and almost hit Teixiera. Yeah, baby. Establish inside first, make them think in there, then work them away. Have some balls like Nieve, all the rest of you guys on the staff.\r\n\r\nHow much do we need Church to hit like this the rest of the way? I have said all along that what the Mets get from him will be the key to this team.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I liked Nieve about 10 pitches into his Mets career. He threw inside and almost hit Teixiera. Yeah, baby. Establish inside first, make them think in there, then work them away. Have some balls like Nieve, all the rest of you guys on the staff.

How much do we need Church to hit like this the rest of the way? I have said all along that what the Mets get from him will be the key to this team.

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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/06/24/training-day/comment-page-1/#comment-150907 kranepool Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:29:38 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1823#comment-150907 Stork, Onr thing Omar does is give a lot of credit to Tony Bernazard as he found Santos, and pushed for Nieve and Cora. Tony B may be rough around the edges but he is a great talent evaluator Drury for Heatley? I'd drive Drury to the airport and buy his plane ticket to Ottawa. It seems Heatley is angling to go to the West Coast but Slats may be able to talk him into joining the Blueshirts.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('150907','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('150907','kranepool','Stork,\nOnr thing Omar does is give a lot of credit to Tony Bernazard as he found Santos, and pushed for Nieve and Cora. Tony B may be rough around the edges but he is a great talent evaluator\n\nDrury for Heatley? I\'d drive Drury to the airport and buy his plane ticket to Ottawa. It seems Heatley is angling to go to the West Coast but Slats may be able to talk him into joining the Blueshirts.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Stork,
Onr thing Omar does is give a lot of credit to Tony Bernazard as he found Santos, and pushed for Nieve and Cora. Tony B may be rough around the edges but he is a great talent evaluator

Drury for Heatley? I’d drive Drury to the airport and buy his plane ticket to Ottawa. It seems Heatley is angling to go to the West Coast but Slats may be able to talk him into joining the Blueshirts.

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]]> By: George the Stork http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/06/24/training-day/comment-page-1/#comment-150895 George the Stork Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:47:47 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1823#comment-150895 Boy, that Nieve looks good. He's like a mean sombeech out there. I'm in no hurry to see Ollie P come back if it means Nieve steps aside. What a pickup Alex Cora has been, too. For all the abuse Omar gets, he makes some good under-the-radar moves. Who's bench would you rather have, the Mets or the Highlanders? Hey, Steve, how 'bout the Dany Heatley to the Rangers rumors? Latest one was Heatley for Drury. I'd do that in a second -- no brainer to me.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('150895','George the Stork'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('150895','George the Stork','Boy, that Nieve looks good. He\'s like a mean sombeech out there. I\'m in no hurry to see Ollie P come back if it means Nieve steps aside. What a pickup Alex Cora has been, too. For all the abuse Omar gets, he makes some good under-the-radar moves. Who\'s bench would you rather have, the Mets or the Highlanders?\r\n\r\nHey, Steve, how \'bout the Dany Heatley to the Rangers rumors? Latest one was Heatley for Drury. I\'d do that in a second -- no brainer to me.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Boy, that Nieve looks good. He’s like a mean sombeech out there. I’m in no hurry to see Ollie P come back if it means Nieve steps aside. What a pickup Alex Cora has been, too. For all the abuse Omar gets, he makes some good under-the-radar moves. Who’s bench would you rather have, the Mets or the Highlanders?

Hey, Steve, how ’bout the Dany Heatley to the Rangers rumors? Latest one was Heatley for Drury. I’d do that in a second — no brainer to me.

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