Comments on: “WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE” http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/07/13/where-do-we-go-from-here/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Paul http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/07/13/where-do-we-go-from-here/comment-page-1/#comment-152278 Paul Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:24:50 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1872#comment-152278 I am not one that thinks that the owners are as involved in the selection of players as everyone thinks...I am not excusing them, but my guess is unless it is a big ticket item, they do not care. If anything it is probably a deal where JW probably asks "Teflon Omar" & "Tango Tony" what about this guy or what about that guy? Either way it goes back to day one. "We need to get younger and more athletic was the quote from Minaya in his first presser. I understand the Pedro signing, but since then, all I have seen is older and more broken down. Hell, this group did not even draft Jose (John Milner's legs are my idol Reyes and David (I really have not hit well since the HR derby, because it screwed up my swing) Wright. Other than the signing of Beltran and the trade for Santana, Shea Stadium & Taxpayer Field have become Queens' newest old age home. How is it in four years, the A-level teams (with apologies to Brad Holt) are the only ones with prospects?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('152278','Paul'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('152278','Paul','I am not one that thinks that the owners are as involved in the selection of players as everyone thinks...I am not excusing them, but my guess is unless it is a big ticket item, they do not care. If anything it is probably a deal where JW probably asks \"Teflon Omar\" & \"Tango Tony\" what about this guy or what about that guy? Either way it goes back to day one. \"We need to get younger and more athletic was the quote from Minaya in his first presser. I understand the Pedro signing, but since then, all I have seen is older and more broken down. Hell, this group did not even draft Jose (John Milner\'s legs are my idol Reyes and David (I really have not hit well since the HR derby, because it screwed up my swing) Wright. Other than the signing of Beltran and the trade for Santana, Shea Stadium & Taxpayer Field have become Queens\' newest old age home. How is it in four years, the A-level teams (with apologies to Brad Holt) are the only ones with prospects?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I am not one that thinks that the owners are as involved in the selection of players as everyone thinks…I am not excusing them, but my guess is unless it is a big ticket item, they do not care. If anything it is probably a deal where JW probably asks “Teflon Omar” & “Tango Tony” what about this guy or what about that guy? Either way it goes back to day one. “We need to get younger and more athletic was the quote from Minaya in his first presser. I understand the Pedro signing, but since then, all I have seen is older and more broken down. Hell, this group did not even draft Jose (John Milner’s legs are my idol Reyes and David (I really have not hit well since the HR derby, because it screwed up my swing) Wright. Other than the signing of Beltran and the trade for Santana, Shea Stadium & Taxpayer Field have become Queens’ newest old age home. How is it in four years, the A-level teams (with apologies to Brad Holt) are the only ones with prospects?
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]]> By: Julio Moises Jose Franco Alou Lima Sheffield http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/07/13/where-do-we-go-from-here/comment-page-1/#comment-152259 Julio Moises Jose Franco Alou Lima Sheffield Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:15:21 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1872#comment-152259 How ironic that our host backtracks a bit on the Fire Omar bandwagon on the day when Sonya Sotomayor, The Affirmative Action Chief Justice, begins a creampuff confirmation hearing. Somar Sotominaya, The Affirmative Action GM, IS A FAILURE - look at the payroll and look at the record. Injuries? Look at the games played by Wright, Reyes, Delgado, and Beltran in 2008 - the team shit the bed even with the big 4 barely taking a day off. Give it up Somar defenders - there has to be a better cause. I have one - getting the deRouDolans to sell this mess. May the next owner of the Mets fire every person in the organization with the exception of K-Rod, Johan, Keith, and Ron. Cohen is a snide little shit who frequently got 'snippy' with Bob Murphy so I say can him.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('152259','Julio Moises Jose Franco Alou Lima Sheffield'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('152259','Julio Moises Jose Franco Alou Lima Sheffield','How ironic that our host backtracks a bit on the Fire Omar bandwagon on the day when Sonya Sotomayor, The Affirmative Action Chief Justice, begins a creampuff confirmation hearing.\r\n\r\nSomar Sotominaya, The Affirmative Action GM, IS A FAILURE - look at the payroll and look at the record.\r\n\r\nInjuries? Look at the games played by Wright, Reyes, Delgado, and Beltran in 2008 - the team shit the bed even with the big 4 barely taking a day off.\r\n\r\nGive it up Somar defenders - there has to be a better cause.\r\n\r\nI have one - getting the deRouDolans to sell this mess. May the next owner of the Mets fire every person in the organization with the exception of K-Rod, Johan, Keith, and Ron. Cohen is a snide little shit who frequently got \'snippy\' with Bob Murphy so I say can him.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> How ironic that our host backtracks a bit on the Fire Omar bandwagon on the day when Sonya Sotomayor, The Affirmative Action Chief Justice, begins a creampuff confirmation hearing.

Somar Sotominaya, The Affirmative Action GM, IS A FAILURE – look at the payroll and look at the record.

Injuries? Look at the games played by Wright, Reyes, Delgado, and Beltran in 2008 – the team shit the bed even with the big 4 barely taking a day off.

Give it up Somar defenders – there has to be a better cause.

I have one – getting the deRouDolans to sell this mess. May the next owner of the Mets fire every person in the organization with the exception of K-Rod, Johan, Keith, and Ron. Cohen is a snide little shit who frequently got ‘snippy’ with Bob Murphy so I say can him.

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]]> By: The Coop http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/07/13/where-do-we-go-from-here/comment-page-1/#comment-152256 The Coop Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:00:06 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=1872#comment-152256 I've decided to take the PrOmar Camp and be a Minayapologist. Actually nothing's really changed there b/c I've always been, just more so now. I agree, the Wilflops/Coupons/Morons don't know what they are doing and they should keep out of the baseball side of the biz and do what they do best, sign the checks and keep their mouths shut (along with not getting raked by a Ponzi scheme but I digress). Anyhoo, back to Omar. I don't think he's going anywhere - if there's anything the Wilpons like is a scapegoat and someone who can work the press. I think Omar comes across as an idiot, but he's dumb like a fox - he'll say something without saying anything, the press does what they will with it and we realize we are where we all started - with no new news. OK! So my philosophy is what you are preaching here in the end - we've become incredibly spoiled as a fan base. Reason being - in 2005, we signed Pedro and Carlos, and the team really did well, even staying in the WC race. It was promising, it was fun, it set the table. NOW! We get to 2006 and all of a sudden, we are a win now team. I think the biggest mistake Omar ever made (besides giving Pedro 4 years, but you know that already) was trading for an aging declining Delgado and Paul LoDuca. PLD was obviously never in the long-term plans of the team and that led to Omar being lax in the protection of Jesus Flores, a move he even says was dumb (losing him in Rule 5). Then Delgado - oy vey. This guy has been a freakin succubus the entire time he's been on the team. That my friends has set the standard for lazy Dorn-esque plays and the whole home run culture we have set for the team. In fact, I think the team has been performing BETTER without him, even if they need a big bat desperately and are under .500. So now what? Well, we seem to forget all our top chip prospects were traded for a guy named Johan and even the Sox and Yanks hate that they didn't get him (although admittedly, their prospects are a lot better). But I guarantee if 2006 never happened (and subsequently 07 and 08), we'd not have these unrealistic expectations on the team. My prediction? We get our players back, get a good run, and still lose in the last week of the season.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('152256','The Coop'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('152256','The Coop','I\'ve decided to take the PrOmar Camp and be a Minayapologist. Actually nothing\'s really changed there b\/c I\'ve always been, just more so now. I agree, the Wilflops\/Coupons\/Morons don\'t know what they are doing and they should keep out of the baseball side of the biz and do what they do best, sign the checks and keep their mouths shut (along with not getting raked by a Ponzi scheme but I digress). Anyhoo, back to Omar. I don\'t think he\'s going anywhere - if there\'s anything the Wilpons like is a scapegoat and someone who can work the press. I think Omar comes across as an idiot, but he\'s dumb like a fox - he\'ll say something without saying anything, the press does what they will with it and we realize we are where we all started - with no new news. OK! So my philosophy is what you are preaching here in the end - we\'ve become incredibly spoiled as a fan base. Reason being - in 2005, we signed Pedro and Carlos, and the team really did well, even staying in the WC race. It was promising, it was fun, it set the table. NOW! We get to 2006 and all of a sudden, we are a win now team. I think the biggest mistake Omar ever made (besides giving Pedro 4 years, but you know that already) was trading for an aging declining Delgado and Paul LoDuca. PLD was obviously never in the long-term plans of the team and that led to Omar being lax in the protection of Jesus Flores, a move he even says was dumb (losing him in Rule 5). Then Delgado - oy vey. This guy has been a freakin succubus the entire time he\'s been on the team. That my friends has set the standard for lazy Dorn-esque plays and the whole home run culture we have set for the team. In fact, I think the team has been performing BETTER without him, even if they need a big bat desperately and are under .500. \r\n\r\nSo now what? Well, we seem to forget all our top chip prospects were traded for a guy named Johan and even the Sox and Yanks hate that they didn\'t get him (although admittedly, their prospects are a lot better). But I guarantee if 2006 never happened (and subsequently 07 and 08), we\'d not have these unrealistic expectations on the team.\r\n\r\nMy prediction? We get our players back, get a good run, and still lose in the last week of the season.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’ve decided to take the PrOmar Camp and be a Minayapologist. Actually nothing’s really changed there b/c I’ve always been, just more so now. I agree, the Wilflops/Coupons/Morons don’t know what they are doing and they should keep out of the baseball side of the biz and do what they do best, sign the checks and keep their mouths shut (along with not getting raked by a Ponzi scheme but I digress). Anyhoo, back to Omar. I don’t think he’s going anywhere – if there’s anything the Wilpons like is a scapegoat and someone who can work the press. I think Omar comes across as an idiot, but he’s dumb like a fox – he’ll say something without saying anything, the press does what they will with it and we realize we are where we all started – with no new news. OK! So my philosophy is what you are preaching here in the end – we’ve become incredibly spoiled as a fan base. Reason being – in 2005, we signed Pedro and Carlos, and the team really did well, even staying in the WC race. It was promising, it was fun, it set the table. NOW! We get to 2006 and all of a sudden, we are a win now team. I think the biggest mistake Omar ever made (besides giving Pedro 4 years, but you know that already) was trading for an aging declining Delgado and Paul LoDuca. PLD was obviously never in the long-term plans of the team and that led to Omar being lax in the protection of Jesus Flores, a move he even says was dumb (losing him in Rule 5). Then Delgado – oy vey. This guy has been a freakin succubus the entire time he’s been on the team. That my friends has set the standard for lazy Dorn-esque plays and the whole home run culture we have set for the team. In fact, I think the team has been performing BETTER without him, even if they need a big bat desperately and are under .500.

So now what? Well, we seem to forget all our top chip prospects were traded for a guy named Johan and even the Sox and Yanks hate that they didn’t get him (although admittedly, their prospects are a lot better). But I guarantee if 2006 never happened (and subsequently 07 and 08), we’d not have these unrealistic expectations on the team.

My prediction? We get our players back, get a good run, and still lose in the last week of the season.

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