Comments on: TEAM TRAIN WRECK http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156742 Rich Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:28:44 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156742 Hey Scott, I agree. I think Stork sees Jeff continuing to meddle. I'd take a Theo RIGHT NOW and push Jeff into a closet personally if need be.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156742','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156742','Rich','Hey Scott, I agree. I think Stork sees Jeff continuing to meddle. I\'d take a Theo RIGHT NOW and push Jeff into a closet personally if need be.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hey Scott, I agree. I think Stork sees Jeff continuing to meddle. I’d take a Theo RIGHT NOW and push Jeff into a closet personally if need be.
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]]> By: scott from peekskill http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156712 scott from peekskill Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:09:03 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156712 <a href='#comment-156673' rel="nofollow">@Rich</a> - Not true. A young baseball executive with talent would jump at the chance to be the Mets GM no matter who the owner is. Guys like Epstein thrive in spite of ownership. Just gotta find a young ballbuster in another organization who wants to turn this Titanic around.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156712','scott from peekskill'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156712','scott from peekskill','<a href=\'#comment-156673\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Rich<\/a> - Not true. A young baseball executive with talent would jump at the chance to be the Mets GM no matter who the owner is. Guys like Epstein thrive in spite of ownership. Just gotta find a young ballbuster in another organization who wants to turn this Titanic around.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Rich – Not true. A young baseball executive with talent would jump at the chance to be the Mets GM no matter who the owner is. Guys like Epstein thrive in spite of ownership. Just gotta find a young ballbuster in another organization who wants to turn this Titanic around.
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]]> By: Luis http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156706 Luis Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:54:30 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156706 There is no plan in place with these people in charge, other than to sign the highest profile person they can, rather than create some useful production from positions via platooning, intelligent acquisitions and creativity. Had Whitey Herzog, Dave Johnson, Mike Sciosia, Bobby Cox, or even Bobby V been in charge theses past few years, who really thinks the Mets would be as forlorn as they seem now. I will grant last year as an aberration due to injuries. Slomar and the Wilpons are lost<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156706','Luis'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156706','Luis','There is no plan in place with these people in charge, other than to sign the highest profile person they can, rather than create some useful production from positions via platooning, intelligent acquisitions and creativity. Had Whitey Herzog, Dave Johnson, Mike Sciosia, Bobby Cox, or even Bobby V been in charge theses past few years, who really thinks the Mets would be as forlorn as they seem now. I will grant last year as an aberration due to injuries.\r\nSlomar and the Wilpons are lost'); return false;">Quote</a></div> There is no plan in place with these people in charge, other than to sign the highest profile person they can, rather than create some useful production from positions via platooning, intelligent acquisitions and creativity. Had Whitey Herzog, Dave Johnson, Mike Sciosia, Bobby Cox, or even Bobby V been in charge theses past few years, who really thinks the Mets would be as forlorn as they seem now. I will grant last year as an aberration due to injuries.
Slomar and the Wilpons are lost
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]]> By: the stork http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156676 the stork Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:50:36 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156676 Rich - unfortunately, I think Jeffy will meddle even if they revive Kennesaw "Mountain" Landis (sp?) for GM. He's an entitled brat. Good GMs, like good free agents, know this and thus will never hang their shingle in Stemland. Nelson Doubleday saw the future and got the f--k out. GM with a clue? Won't join the Mets. GM with balls? Won't join Mets either but at least tells Jeff to fuck off during interview.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156676','the stork'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156676','the stork','Rich - unfortunately, I think Jeffy will meddle even if they revive Kennesaw \"Mountain\" Landis (sp?) for GM.\r\n\r\nHe\'s an entitled brat. Good GMs, like good free agents, know this and thus will never hang their shingle in Stemland.\r\n\r\nNelson Doubleday saw the future and got the f--k out. \r\n\r\nGM with a clue? Won\'t join the Mets. GM with balls? Won\'t join Mets either but at least tells Jeff to fuck off during interview.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Rich – unfortunately, I think Jeffy will meddle even if they revive Kennesaw “Mountain” Landis (sp?) for GM.

He’s an entitled brat. Good GMs, like good free agents, know this and thus will never hang their shingle in Stemland.

Nelson Doubleday saw the future and got the f–k out.

GM with a clue? Won’t join the Mets. GM with balls? Won’t join Mets either but at least tells Jeff to fuck off during interview.

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]]> By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156673 Rich Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:10:27 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156673 Get a GM who has a clue, and with the balls to ask Jeff to step aside. That's all it takes. Ask yourself why Jeff is involved? because he has an incompetent GM, so Jeff feels he has to stay in the picture. Now ask yourself if this all could have been avoided if Jeff simply bit the bullet, fired Mr. Clueless, and brought us a real GM. And the part the chaps my ass is that this can still be done. But no, they continue to make a mockery of the organization. FIRE THE DOPE TODAY!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156673','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156673','Rich','Get a GM who has a clue, and with the balls to ask Jeff to step aside. That\'s all it takes. Ask yourself why Jeff is involved? because he has an incompetent GM, so Jeff feels he has to stay in the picture. Now ask yourself if this all could have been avoided if Jeff simply bit the bullet, fired Mr. Clueless, and brought us a real GM. And the part the chaps my ass is that this can still be done. But no, they continue to make a mockery of the organization. FIRE THE DOPE TODAY!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Get a GM who has a clue, and with the balls to ask Jeff to step aside. That’s all it takes. Ask yourself why Jeff is involved? because he has an incompetent GM, so Jeff feels he has to stay in the picture. Now ask yourself if this all could have been avoided if Jeff simply bit the bullet, fired Mr. Clueless, and brought us a real GM. And the part the chaps my ass is that this can still be done. But no, they continue to make a mockery of the organization. FIRE THE DOPE TODAY!
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156672 kranepool Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:10:01 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156672 The fact that Jeffey was ever drafted by the Expos as a catcher has never been validated in fact that draft story is a much urban legend as alligators in the NYC sewer system<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156672','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156672','kranepool','The fact that Jeffey was ever drafted by the Expos as a catcher has never been validated in fact that draft story is a much urban legend as alligators in the NYC sewer system'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The fact that Jeffey was ever drafted by the Expos as a catcher has never been validated in fact that draft story is a much urban legend as alligators in the NYC sewer system
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]]> By: Mr. Knish http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156666 Mr. Knish Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:03:36 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156666 At least we have Gary, Keith and Ron.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156666','Mr. Knish'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156666','Mr. Knish','At least we have Gary, Keith and Ron.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> At least we have Gary, Keith and Ron.
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]]> By: the stork http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156664 the stork Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:11:19 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156664 Now it's time to get positive - in a twisted way. The sentiment is getting so hostile that I'm starting to think we may see the only remedy for what ails us - a sale by the wilpons. It's not imminent...but the level of disgust has never been this high as far as I can recall. The steve phillips debacle (mo, robby, et. al.) was pretty bad but there's something about the 2009 train wreck that has hit the die hards deeply. The deroulet period was about as hopeless but those people were simply inept and not borderline evil as fred and jeff are. Channel this agner into a boycott and let's get this team out of the wilpon's inept hands so we can hope for something to root for in this lifetime. Remember, jeff wilpon is 45 years old, so if they don't sell, we have 30 more years of this.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156664','the stork'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156664','the stork','Now it\'s time to get positive - in a twisted way.\r\n\r\nThe sentiment is getting so hostile that I\'m starting to think we may see the only remedy for what ails us - a sale by the wilpons.\r\n\r\nIt\'s not imminent...but the level of disgust has never been this high as far as I can recall. The steve phillips debacle (mo, robby, et. al.) was pretty bad but there\'s something about the 2009 train wreck that has hit the die hards deeply. \r\n\r\nThe deroulet period was about as hopeless but those people were simply inept and not borderline evil as fred and jeff are.\r\n\r\nChannel this agner into a boycott and let\'s get this team out of the wilpon\'s inept hands so we can hope for something to root for in this lifetime. Remember, jeff wilpon is 45 years old, so if they don\'t sell, we have 30 more years of this.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Now it’s time to get positive – in a twisted way.

The sentiment is getting so hostile that I’m starting to think we may see the only remedy for what ails us – a sale by the wilpons.

It’s not imminent…but the level of disgust has never been this high as far as I can recall. The steve phillips debacle (mo, robby, et. al.) was pretty bad but there’s something about the 2009 train wreck that has hit the die hards deeply.

The deroulet period was about as hopeless but those people were simply inept and not borderline evil as fred and jeff are.

Channel this agner into a boycott and let’s get this team out of the wilpon’s inept hands so we can hope for something to root for in this lifetime. Remember, jeff wilpon is 45 years old, so if they don’t sell, we have 30 more years of this.

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]]> By: Michael http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156662 Michael Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:17:40 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156662 And now Marquis is heading to Washington. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4762287<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156662','Michael'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156662','Michael','And now Marquis is heading to Washington.\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/sports.espn.go.com\/mlb\/news\/story?id=4762287'); return false;">Quote</a></div> And now Marquis is heading to Washington.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4762287

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]]> By: John Beyrer http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2009/12/21/team-train-wreck/comment-page-1/#comment-156657 John Beyrer Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:59:19 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2115#comment-156657 The problem is that Jeffster thinks he is the next coming or current incarnation of Branch Rickey, Frank Cashen or -----(fill in the blank of you favorite front office person). I have seasons at teh Cyclones and a pkg for the mets. When you read the free give away mag from bklyn it has a paragraph about how the son played ball in the NYP league after getting drafted by teh expos. The fact that this guy was drafted in the 62nd round by the worst team since the ST louis Browns and played in Low A ball does not make him a qualified "baseball man". I would guess that he is bright after having gone to an Ivy league school but that doesn't make him Brad Ausmus who I believe is a Dartmouth Grad as is Jeff from my understanding. BTW Dartmouth is not Clemson, Miami, USC or any sort of baseball powerhouse. It also begs the question as to whether he was drafted as a favor to Pop. The emperor has no clothes but was born to the right family<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('156657','John Beyrer'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('156657','John Beyrer','The problem is that Jeffster thinks he is the next coming or current incarnation of Branch Rickey, Frank Cashen or -----(fill in the blank of you favorite front office person). I have seasons at teh Cyclones and a pkg for the mets. When you read the free give away mag from bklyn it has a paragraph about how the son played ball in the NYP league after getting drafted by teh expos. The fact that this guy was drafted in the 62nd round by the worst team since the ST louis Browns and played in Low A ball does not make him a qualified \"baseball man\". I would guess that he is bright after having gone to an Ivy league school but that doesn\'t make him Brad Ausmus who I believe is a Dartmouth Grad as is Jeff from my understanding. BTW Dartmouth is not Clemson, Miami, USC or any sort of baseball powerhouse. It also begs the question as to whether he was drafted as a favor to Pop. The emperor has no clothes but was born to the right family'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The problem is that Jeffster thinks he is the next coming or current incarnation of Branch Rickey, Frank Cashen or —–(fill in the blank of you favorite front office person). I have seasons at teh Cyclones and a pkg for the mets. When you read the free give away mag from bklyn it has a paragraph about how the son played ball in the NYP league after getting drafted by teh expos. The fact that this guy was drafted in the 62nd round by the worst team since the ST louis Browns and played in Low A ball does not make him a qualified “baseball man”. I would guess that he is bright after having gone to an Ivy league school but that doesn’t make him Brad Ausmus who I believe is a Dartmouth Grad as is Jeff from my understanding. BTW Dartmouth is not Clemson, Miami, USC or any sort of baseball powerhouse. It also begs the question as to whether he was drafted as a favor to Pop. The emperor has no clothes but was born to the right family
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