Comments on: DELIVER US FROM EVIL, FRED WILPON! http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/ A daily account of the trials and tribulations of the New York Mets. Contact me at sinymets@aol.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: peter http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159767 peter Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:14:10 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159767 I'm a Huge fan of the Who. But that was the music recorded in the 60s. Enough of this Geezer Rock. Please take them all behind the barn and put us all out of our misery. Time for the SB to use whatever noise the young people listen to.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159767','peter'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159767','peter','I\'m a Huge fan of the Who. But that was the music recorded in the 60s. Enough of this Geezer Rock. Please take them all behind the barn and put us all out of our misery. Time for the SB to use whatever noise the young people listen to.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’m a Huge fan of the Who. But that was the music recorded in the 60s. Enough of this Geezer Rock. Please take them all behind the barn and put us all out of our misery. Time for the SB to use whatever noise the young people listen to.
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]]> By: Dan Gurney http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159759 Dan Gurney Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:48:36 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159759 I get stoked up for "pitchers and catchers" by going to Islanders games. That was a real stinker last night. Reminded me of the Joe Torre Mets days of Pat Zachry, Steve Henderson and Skip Lockwood. Throw Wang in the mix with the Wilpons and Dolans (although they do have a terrible lease. But he isn't smart enough to bribe politicians to let him build his Lifesaver project). I say the New York area is a Yankee town because the Highlanders are worth more according to Forbes and they do have a substantial fan base in NJ, upstate New York and Connecticut. Winning does that for you. But Mets fans are far more numerous than White Sox and Angels fans in their cities. But one thing that convicted liar from Cleveland knows if to fear your rivals (Mets, Red Sox) and to always try to outdo them. The Wilpons/Payson-deRoulet never grasped this.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159759','Dan Gurney'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159759','Dan Gurney','I get stoked up for \"pitchers and catchers\" by going to Islanders games. That was a real stinker last night. Reminded me of the Joe Torre Mets days of Pat Zachry, Steve Henderson and Skip Lockwood. Throw Wang in the mix with the Wilpons and Dolans (although they do have a terrible lease. But he isn\'t smart enough to bribe politicians to let him build his Lifesaver project).\r\n\r\nI say the New York area is a Yankee town because the Highlanders are worth more according to Forbes and they do have a substantial fan base in NJ, upstate New York and Connecticut. Winning does that for you. But Mets fans are far more numerous than White Sox and Angels fans in their cities. But one thing that convicted liar from Cleveland knows if to fear your rivals (Mets, Red Sox) and to always try to outdo them. The Wilpons\/Payson-deRoulet never grasped this.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I get stoked up for “pitchers and catchers” by going to Islanders games. That was a real stinker last night. Reminded me of the Joe Torre Mets days of Pat Zachry, Steve Henderson and Skip Lockwood. Throw Wang in the mix with the Wilpons and Dolans (although they do have a terrible lease. But he isn’t smart enough to bribe politicians to let him build his Lifesaver project).

I say the New York area is a Yankee town because the Highlanders are worth more according to Forbes and they do have a substantial fan base in NJ, upstate New York and Connecticut. Winning does that for you. But Mets fans are far more numerous than White Sox and Angels fans in their cities. But one thing that convicted liar from Cleveland knows if to fear your rivals (Mets, Red Sox) and to always try to outdo them. The Wilpons/Payson-deRoulet never grasped this.

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]]> By: Michael http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159756 Michael Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:51:09 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159756 <a href='#comment-159755' rel="nofollow">@Dana Brand</a> - Well stated Dana. Even as a Yankee Fan (27) I agree there is a captive base of fans in this town (and elsewhere) ready to root either for the Mets or strictly against the Yankees. The current Met's ownership doesn't quite see it that way. Great marketing opportunities are out there to be exploited, Fred.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159756','Michael'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159756','Michael','<a href=\'#comment-159755\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Dana Brand<\/a> - \r\n\r\nWell stated Dana. Even as a Yankee Fan (27) I agree there is a captive base of fans in this town (and elsewhere) ready to root either for the Mets or strictly against the Yankees. The current Met\'s ownership doesn\'t quite see it that way. \r\n\r\nGreat marketing opportunities are out there to be exploited, Fred.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Dana Brand –

Well stated Dana. Even as a Yankee Fan (27) I agree there is a captive base of fans in this town (and elsewhere) ready to root either for the Mets or strictly against the Yankees. The current Met’s ownership doesn’t quite see it that way.

Great marketing opportunities are out there to be exploited, Fred.

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]]> By: Dana Brand http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159755 Dana Brand Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:37:40 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159755 I see that you're right, Michael. I never would have guessed that the Yankees outdrew the Mets overall in the '80s because of the lead they had built up during the Mets' first four bad years in that decade. But the fact remains that the Mets outdrew the Yankees every year from 1984 to 1993, and by substantial amounts in all but the first and last years of that reign. So your point about the Mets not outdrawing the Yankees since the '70s could be a little misleading. New York, as you say, is not a National League town. And the Yankees are undoubtedly more popular now. But the Mets still have a very large and loyal fanbase, and a better and more vibrant blogosphere. Now if they could only have a winning team and an ownership with an imaginative and sympathetic understanding of its fans, you would see how popular they could be. That being said, I don't think that New York will ever be a National League or an American League town again.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159755','Dana Brand'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159755','Dana Brand','I see that you\'re right, Michael. I never would have guessed that the Yankees outdrew the Mets overall in the \'80s because of the lead they had built up during the Mets\' first four bad years in that decade. But the fact remains that the Mets outdrew the Yankees every year from 1984 to 1993, and by substantial amounts in all but the first and last years of that reign. So your point about the Mets not outdrawing the Yankees since the \'70s could be a little misleading. New York, as you say, is not a National League town. And the Yankees are undoubtedly more popular now. But the Mets still have a very large and loyal fanbase, and a better and more vibrant blogosphere. Now if they could only have a winning team and an ownership with an imaginative and sympathetic understanding of its fans, you would see how popular they could be. That being said, I don\'t think that New York will ever be a National League or an American League town again.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I see that you’re right, Michael. I never would have guessed that the Yankees outdrew the Mets overall in the ’80s because of the lead they had built up during the Mets’ first four bad years in that decade. But the fact remains that the Mets outdrew the Yankees every year from 1984 to 1993, and by substantial amounts in all but the first and last years of that reign. So your point about the Mets not outdrawing the Yankees since the ’70s could be a little misleading. New York, as you say, is not a National League town. And the Yankees are undoubtedly more popular now. But the Mets still have a very large and loyal fanbase, and a better and more vibrant blogosphere. Now if they could only have a winning team and an ownership with an imaginative and sympathetic understanding of its fans, you would see how popular they could be. That being said, I don’t think that New York will ever be a National League or an American League town again.
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]]> By: Paul L. http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159753 Paul L. Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:12:54 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159753 No Yankee team captured NYC like the 86 team.......NONE or the 69 Mets..........NONE....They dont call teh American league the junior circuit for nothing.....And just to square it all up. Baseball is played with 9 players not a DH...And heck how many World Series you going to win by grabbing a Sox player......<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159753','Paul L.'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159753','Paul L.','No Yankee team captured NYC like the 86 team.......NONE or the 69 Mets..........NONE....They dont call teh American league the junior circuit for nothing.....And just to square it all up. Baseball is played with 9 players not a DH...And heck how many World Series you going to win by grabbing a Sox player......'); return false;">Quote</a></div> No Yankee team captured NYC like the 86 team…….NONE or the 69 Mets……….NONE….They dont call teh American league the junior circuit for nothing…..And just to square it all up. Baseball is played with 9 players not a DH…And heck how many World Series you going to win by grabbing a Sox player……
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]]> By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159750 Rich Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:43:28 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159750 Rusty, which column is yours? Where can it be found? Steve, you used the word "album". To anyone under 35, "33" means absolutely nothing! But thanks, it is nice to see that word in print referring to a piece of music.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159750','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159750','Rich','Rusty, which column is yours? Where can it be found? Steve, you used the word \"album\". To anyone under 35, \"33\" means absolutely nothing! But thanks, it is nice to see that word in print referring to a piece of music.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Rusty, which column is yours? Where can it be found? Steve, you used the word “album”. To anyone under 35, “33″ means absolutely nothing! But thanks, it is nice to see that word in print referring to a piece of music.
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159748 kranepool Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:13:01 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159748 Rusty, there is only one front man for Sabbath and that's my idol, Ozzy! If I ever met Ronnie James Dio in person I'd punch him in the face<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159748','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159748','kranepool','Rusty, there is only one front man for Sabbath and that\'s my idol, Ozzy! If I ever met Ronnie James Dio in person I\'d punch him in the face'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Rusty, there is only one front man for Sabbath and that’s my idol, Ozzy! If I ever met Ronnie James Dio in person I’d punch him in the face
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]]> By: kranepool http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159747 kranepool Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:10:20 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159747 my point exactly Michael<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159747','kranepool'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159747','kranepool','my point exactly Michael'); return false;">Quote</a></div> my point exactly Michael
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]]> By: rustyjr http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159744 rustyjr Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:53:59 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159744 <a href='#comment-159743' rel="nofollow">@Rich</a> - im 38 and i remember the lean years of the late '70's I was first taken to a Mets game during the '73 w.s but my original memories were of a losing franchise - but i know i wished and hoped the team would get better - and it did . now im more cynical but i am still wishing and hoping but there is a point when reality creeps in - i believe the mets will compete for third place this year - too many things have to go right for us to even get the wild card<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159744','rustyjr'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159744','rustyjr','<a href=\'#comment-159743\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Rich<\/a> - im 38 and i remember the lean years of the late \'70\'s I was first taken to a Mets game during the \'73 w.s but my original memories were of a losing franchise - but i know i wished and hoped the team would get better - and it did . now im more cynical but i am still wishing and hoping but there is a point when reality creeps in - i believe the mets will compete for third place this year - too many things have to go right for us to even get the wild card'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Rich – im 38 and i remember the lean years of the late ’70′s I was first taken to a Mets game during the ’73 w.s but my original memories were of a losing franchise – but i know i wished and hoped the team would get better – and it did . now im more cynical but i am still wishing and hoping but there is a point when reality creeps in – i believe the mets will compete for third place this year – too many things have to go right for us to even get the wild card
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]]> By: Rich http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/2010/02/07/deliver-us-from-evil-fred-wilpon/comment-page-1/#comment-159743 Rich Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:49:03 +0000 http://www.kranepoolsociety.com/?p=2242#comment-159743 I always liked Tavares. In the dark days, he was exciting with his SBs and speed. He also could make the eye-popping play, and then flub one hit right at him. I'm pumped for opening day regardless. I love baseball and I'll have my Game Day package and watch every day for 180 days. Of course, I will not miss a pitch of the Mets, but it's great to put on a west coast game after the Mets (and the lame press conference) are over. I agree that Super Sunday is great, because it means baseball has arrived. In the end, the game we love will be back, even though our beloved team will have us pulling our hair out. To Michael, this is and always has been and always will be an NL town. I saw some poll a few years back, that confirmed that there are more Mets than Yankee fans. It also did a profile of both fans, and found that Mets fans are more likely to be "white collar". Anyway, why are you, Michael, so obsessed with the Mets, spending so much time here/ Why did George (I should be in jail) Steinbrenner always hate the Mets so much, more than his rivals? It is because no team in any sport owns NYC like the Mets when they are doing well. You know it, I know it, we all know it. Yankee fans hate that their team has to do so much more to achieve the same level of interest. Say whatever you want, NL, NL, NL. You are living proof.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('159743','Rich'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('159743','Rich','I always liked Tavares. In the dark days, he was exciting with his SBs and speed. He also could make the eye-popping play, and then flub one hit right at him. I\'m pumped for opening day regardless. I love baseball and I\'ll have my Game Day package and watch every day for 180 days. Of course, I will not miss a pitch of the Mets, but it\'s great to put on a west coast game after the Mets (and the lame press conference) are over. I agree that Super Sunday is great, because it means baseball has arrived. In the end, the game we love will be back, even though our beloved team will have us pulling our hair out. \r\n\r\nTo Michael, this is and always has been and always will be an NL town. I saw some poll a few years back, that confirmed that there are more Mets than Yankee fans. It also did a profile of both fans, and found that Mets fans are more likely to be \"white collar\". Anyway, why are you, Michael, so obsessed with the Mets, spending so much time here\/ Why did George (I should be in jail) Steinbrenner always hate the Mets so much, more than his rivals? It is because no team in any sport owns NYC like the Mets when they are doing well. You know it, I know it, we all know it. Yankee fans hate that their team has to do so much more to achieve the same level of interest. \r\n\r\nSay whatever you want, NL, NL, NL. You are living proof.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I always liked Tavares. In the dark days, he was exciting with his SBs and speed. He also could make the eye-popping play, and then flub one hit right at him. I’m pumped for opening day regardless. I love baseball and I’ll have my Game Day package and watch every day for 180 days. Of course, I will not miss a pitch of the Mets, but it’s great to put on a west coast game after the Mets (and the lame press conference) are over. I agree that Super Sunday is great, because it means baseball has arrived. In the end, the game we love will be back, even though our beloved team will have us pulling our hair out.

To Michael, this is and always has been and always will be an NL town. I saw some poll a few years back, that confirmed that there are more Mets than Yankee fans. It also did a profile of both fans, and found that Mets fans are more likely to be “white collar”. Anyway, why are you, Michael, so obsessed with the Mets, spending so much time here/ Why did George (I should be in jail) Steinbrenner always hate the Mets so much, more than his rivals? It is because no team in any sport owns NYC like the Mets when they are doing well. You know it, I know it, we all know it. Yankee fans hate that their team has to do so much more to achieve the same level of interest.

Say whatever you want, NL, NL, NL. You are living proof.

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