For all the bitching and moaning I’ve done about the Mets this season and the last few seasons, last night was one of those games that thankfully had me turn off the cranky meter. Sure the Mets lost but more importantly, Jacob deGrom sent out a message to Mets fans, do give up the ship just yet.

Last night was a pitching performance reminiscent of Tom Seaver’ many starts as a Met. Seaver would pitch these gems like deGrom and strike out a dozen or more and dominate the game but end up with a loss or a no decision. deGrom was dominate last night with a fastball that he threw like a laser with amazing command and a curve ball that has Marlins hitters shaking their head.

Add in deGrom’s performance with the news that Matt Harvey was hitting 95 mph in his last throwing session of the season along with Sand Alderson proclaiming that Sterling Award winner LHP Steve Matz will vie for a spot on the big league roster next season and suddenly the on field fortunes of the Mets are looking a whole lot better than piss and moaners like me seem to think.

Alderson will have a lot of trade chips over the winter. Right now the starting rotation of 2015 looks like Harvey , deGrom, Zack Wheeler, Noah Syndergarrd and Bartolo Colon. I didn’t include Jon Niese or Dillion Gee because I feel very strongly they will both be ex-Mets. Same with Daniel Murphy, he will be a goner as well. What this trio brings back separately or in packaged together is up for debate.

Why wouldn’t you shut down Vic Black for the rest of the season? Why would you even attempt to make him keep pitching in games that are meaningless? Let him get rested and healthy for 2015.

It’s one thing to be upset with Jenry Meija’s celebrations; it’s another to keep it in house. There was no need for Terry Collins to go public with his displeasure of Mejia’s “reeling in the big one” the other night against the Nationals. The Nats have kicked the Mets ass from Flushing to the Beltway , so a little success made Mejia go a bit overboard. But if Collins has a problem with it, he needs to keep it between himself and the player. He also needs to tread lightly and not mess with Mejia’s head; in fact the manager should go all out in praise of Mejia. Jenry Mejia has battled injuries, surgeries  and worked his ass off to get back on the mound. He’s been jerked around by the organization by making him a starter then a reliever, then a starter and then a closer.  So instead of acting like a cranky old man, Terry Collins should be throwing out praise of Mejia any time his name comes up with the media.

Speaking of Collins, it looks like he’s coming back for another season. Look I guess it is what it is, but I hope that he comes back WITHOUT an extension of his contract. I don’t care about him being a lame duck manager, if Alderson is serious about 2015 being THE season the Mets will contended for the post season, the safety net of a guarantee contract for the manager has to be taken away.

With Collins coming back will his coaches return as well? I would think you have to shake it up some and the biggest shakeup should be the pitching coach. It’s time for Dan Warthen to go and Frank Viola brought up as Mets pitching coach. All of these young studs on the pitching staff were groomed by Viola and now that they are ready to blossom in the big leagues, who better than Frankie V to work with them at the big league level. No matter how you feel about Warthen, the move to Viola as Mets pitching coach makes total sense.


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Boy lots to get to here and I may even piss a few people off but I’m at a point in my life where I don’t give a fuck who likes and who doesn’t like as long as my wife and kids love me I’m good as gold so hold on tight and if you are upset by some comments in this post well tough shit.

First let’s look at the law suit brought on by Leigh Castergine, the fired VP of Ticket Sales for the NY Mets.  Ms. Castergine as you all know was fired from her job as the head of ticket sales for the Mets and at the time of her firing many of us who have met her were puzzled as to why she was let go. Being a single mom was not on the list of friable . I can also say that I have met Jeff Wilpon as well and yes he’s is as clueless  in person as you’d expect. That’s why I believe everything Ms. Castergine filed in her court papers. I could see Wilpon and his band of executive idiots acting the way they did. Do I have proof of all that all that is alleged to have happen? No, but my instincts tell me they did.

After the Rockies series some of the followers of the Mets were living it up thinking that this team had not just a shot at .500 but a 1973 “Ya Gotta Believe “miracle in them. But then came the big bad Washington Nationals, a team that treats the Mets so brutally that I’m sure it is against some or part of the Geneva Convention.  The Nats did last night what they do every time they play at Citi Field, they hit bombs over the wall that has the fan (s?) at the ball park ooooing and ahhhhhing like they’re at a 4th of July fireworks display.  Not only is this an embarrassment to the Mets it also hurts the precious hearts of the Pollyanna Mets fan who think this team is actually good. The Mets have a 29-48 record against teams with a .500 record or better.  Against their fellow second division counterparts the Mets are the Kings of Suck with a 42-28 record.  So think about that when you say the Mets a one or two bats away from being a contender.

You know what I just realized? I have absolutely nothing in common with most baseball fans and writers under the age of 40. These are the folks I like to call the New Age baseball experts. They know so much about the game of baseball and not only dismiss folks of my generations knowledge of the game they have no respect for it either.   And it’s just not older baseball fans that they think are dumb but older men who actually played baseball at its highest level some of whom are enshrined in the sports Hall of Fame.

Mention “baseball’s unwritten rules” to a New Age baseball fan and they spit out their oatmeal chocolate rat turd exotic beer. Mention them to folks of my generation who get the head nod and a “damn right” as we drink our cold Bud with a whisky chaser (that’s a Boilermaker you little shits) see we grew up learning the game from guys who learned the game in the 1940’s and 1950’s. We grew up in an era where not everyone made the team and the only way you got a trophy was by earning it, a trophy for just showing up? What are we a bunch of fucking pansies?

We learned that the game owes you nothing and you are part of a team and the team sticks together. It was how you built a winning attitude.

Ah the winning attitude, this also gets the New Age baseball fan’s skinny jeans in a bunch. They believe that’s a myth mostly because there isn’t a metric to measure a player’s heart or desire.  I played with and against guys that you just knew had that desire to win and would anything possible to achieve that goal. I also played with and against guys who I knew just didn’t have it in them to do whatever is was to win by any means necessary.  I knew plenty of guys who never wanted a ball to be hit to them in a crucial spot or to get up to the plate with tying or winning runs aboard. I’m sure there are guys in the big leagues that are like that as well. But to the New Age baseball fan this is as factual as the Easter Bunny.

Now before you call me a dumb ol’ bastard, let me say I do embrace the use of analytics in baseball and any organization that doesn’t have the best and brightest people available in their analytics department is a poorly run organization. The teams that meld together the analytics department with their scouting department are the ones that win.  Now hold on to your black rimmed glasses you baseball hipsters as much as the metrics can tell you how a hitter or pitcher can perform you still have to know about that player’s makeup. Yes, I know many of you New Agers hate this part but it’s a fact of baseball life. Just like in the job market, players are vetted and checked out to see if they have what it takes to make it in professional baseball. Scouts want to know the work ethic of a prospect. Does have a passion for the game? Does he show up for practice on time? Does he skip practices? What are his grades? Family situation, friends, interests outside the game. All these factors along with the numbers go into drafting and signing a player.

So I guess this is the part where I apologize for being a cranky middle aged man but like I said I don’t give a shit if you agree or disagree but thanks for reading you little asshole LOL!

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What you see above is a picture of Angels Circle located in Staten Island. As you come up Fingerboard Rd to Hylan Blvd this once little traffic circle has become for the last 13 years a memorial to those Staten Islanders who were killed in the attack of the World Trade Center on September 11th 2001. There are pictures of sons, daughters, husbands, wives, mothers and fathers in this memorial. I pass this intersection just about every day. My daughter goes to school just down the street. So when I hear people say “never forget” I smirk because for majority of people this is the one day that they do remember what happened to NYC that day, the other 364 days I doubt anyone even gives the attack a second thought. Not New Yorkers though and especially not Staten Islanders.

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On the latest episode of the Kult of Mets Personalities we discuss the Wilpon’s keeping the Mets payroll in the bottom third of baseball, the odds of a managerial/coaching staff shakeup and Sandy Alderson’s history of free agent signings in the years he ran the Oakland A’s.

Enjoy the very spirited debate of this Kult of Mets Personalities Podcast

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This scene could never happen today, I’m there somewhere in shallow left field. I’ll never forget my wife’s parting words to me when I left for this game “please don’t get arrested”    

If there was ever a good time for SNY to air The Good Doctor, the documentary on the career and life of Dwight Gooden, last night was it. After that mess of a so called baseball game the Mets played in Miami earlier in the day, watching and listening to Gooden and his former teammates not only brought back great and not so great memories (the brutal off the field life Doc led) but it showed what the city and what Citi Field could be like if the organization ever got to back to putting winning as priority one.

Back in 1983, Mets fans knew something special was coming. The only real pipeline to the minor league news was the delivery every two weeks of Baseball America. We read about the Jackson Mets in AA and the Tidewater Tides of AAA, were bursting with talent.  Darryl Strawberry was the first star to arrive and pound out baseballs over outfield fences, ran like a track star and played a tremendous right field.  Keith Hernandez was brought over from the Cardinals as well that season and for the first time in quite a while there was hope in Flushing.

Of course 1984 brought Gooden and also Gary Carter and it brought the Mets as a contender. Mets fans wore their Cub Busters t-shirts to Shea as the Mets fan started to feel good about the team as the revival of the franchise was underway.

1985 was the best Mets season ever that didn’t produce a pennant or World Series winner. It was when for the first time in years; Shea Stadium was the place to be.  I was 27 years old in 1985, with shoulder length hair, a fuck you attitude, and a high tolerance to alcohol and partying just like the players on my favorite baseball team. After games we’d head to Rusty’s Restaurant for ribs and more drinks and applaud the players as they turned up there for a night of fun.  I’m so happy that cell phone cameras were years away from becoming reality.

Shea Stadium and Rusty’s were our version of social media, that’s where the Mets were, that’s where the Mets fans took the persona of their team. Out of town fans didn’t venture into Shea Stadium. It was a pit. It was dirty and in need of repair. The bathrooms leaked of water and other liquids. It was cramped and everyone drank too much, cursed too much and just raised a lot of holy hell. It was fucking paradise.

My shoulder length hair has been replaced by a clean shaved head. I haven’t had a drink in 16 years sticking mainly to seltzer and lemon or unsweetened ice tea. My idea of partying is any night I’m not snoring on the couch at 9PM. It’s kind of hard to explain what the 1980’s were as a Mets fan to the millennial Mets fan of today, I usually just say “Kid you shoulda been there, we had a ball”



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I hope the promotion of Dilison Herrera comes with instructions for the manager that (a) Herrera is to play every day the rest of the season and (b) is never to be put in the 8th spot of the lineup. If the instructions are carried out by Terry Collins, it will force Mets fans to watch the team for the rest of the season.

I was more than a little surprised that Herrera got the call to replace Daniel Murphy who is now disabled.  It surprised me as this is not a typical Mets move. Herrera is only 20 years old and the Mets have some farm hands that are close to AARP eligibility.  Maybe this is a step in a new and exciting direction as I’ve felt the organization is too timid with challenging their prospects especially those players who were drafted out of college.  It also tells me that the payroll for next season will be about where it is for this season.

I’m sure the orders are play Herrera everyday even when (if?) Murph is healed and off the DL. If Herrera can show he can hit big league pitching and play a solid second base, then it’s good bye Murphy at a savings of close to $8.5-$10 mil which is what he’d get via arbitration.

Also the little nugget about Travis d’Arnaud getting a look-see in left field is both a miss-direction play and a money saver with health worries as a side dish. I’m sure part of the thinking of moving TDA to LF was discussed with his suffering of concussions as a concern plus Kevin Plawicki, a 24 year old, four year college player in the Big 10, proving nothing more in Triple A and needs to be brought up to the big leagues (same with Noah Syndergaard like Matt Harvey and Zack Wheeler before him, he’s bored stiff with the competition of the PCL, he needs to be brought up to the big league NOW )is part of the this discussion as well. Oh and don’t forget money as the root of this thinking out loud move  too.

You could look at the promotion of Herrera and the talk of TDA to the outfield as a way for the Mets to stop the flood of negativity from the fan base. This is season six of playing out the string and many Mets fans are ready to turn off their Mets fandom for the year and concentrate on their favorite football team’s season. Add in that school starts next week and the days getting shorter (I was taken aback a bit last night while walking thru Times Square at 7:30 it was kind of dark) the attendance at Citi Field could just nudge above five digits, so the organization needs something to save some relevance in the NYC sports scene. So instead of screaming about the awful in game managing of Terry Collins, Mets Twitter can now dissect each at bat of Dilson Herrera’ major league career.


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Put your seat belt on as it’s purge my brain day here at The Eddie Kranepool Society, so the seat belt sign will remain on for this whole post as I’m expecting a lot of turbulence. The flight crew will be serving refreshments shortly.

How ridiculous is it that the Mets are looking to move Bartolo Colon and Daniel Murphy for the sole purpose of saving money. If that is not the insult of insults to Mets fan I don’t know how you can be more disrespected as a fan base.  If the Skill Sets were to put the team up for sale today, they would get over $2 billion dollars for the team, ball park and SNY easy. So the fact that they have the gall to run this team like a goddamn lemonade stand is disgusting.  All Bartolo Colon has done for the Mets is take the ball every fifth day and given his team every chance to win in just about every start. The guy is unflappable, give up a home run big deal rub up a new ball. Runners in scoring position no outs ? Don’t sweat it I’ll find a way to get out of it. Bullpen is gassed? I’ll go 7, 8 hell I’d go 9 if Terry Collins would just keep his ass in the dugout.  So instead of the mindset that good thing we have a work horse like Colon locked up for next season, the Mets are trying to unload him with the sole purpose of saving the $11 million he’s owed next season. Remember this is a team that has Dillon Gee who hits the DL at least twice a season, Jon Niese with a left shoulder that aches and needs a DL rest from time to time, Jacob deGrom who now has shoulder issues as well and has taken a DL sabbatical and of course Matt Harvey coming off Tommy John surgery so why not keep Colon around? Money, money and more money.

Daniel Murphy has done everything he’s been asked to do as a Met. He’s played wherever he’s been asked and he’s worked hard at those positions and yes he is the modern Dr. Strangeglove but the guy can hit and on a team without many guys who can hit, Murphy is a valuable commodity. Or so you would think. But Murphy makes over $5 mil for this season and has one year of arbitration eligibility. With the season he’s had, his arbitration figure should be no less than $10 mil., its’ that $10mil that will make Daniel Murphy and ex-Met. Sad isn’t it that a player who hits like Murph and uses Citi Field to his advantage by using the gaps, who at 29 years old should be looking at a multi-year deal instead  is wondering where  he will play in 2015.

How are the Wilpon’s allowed to run their team, a team that resides in the city that most people around the world look at as the center of the universe, a city where studio apartments are rented for about the same price as it would cost to buy half the land of the state of Idaho? Like they are from East Bubblefuck?  Is it because they have a deal with Bud Selig? Was the price for keeping control of the Mets after the Madoff financial tsunami that the Mets keep their payroll at small market level? Is Bud Selig the baseball version of a Mafia Don?

Yesterday I was listening to the Dan Patrick Show and his guest was Mark Cuban. Patrick asked Cuban about Selig asking if he was a good commissioner, Cuban responded that he felt Selig was a “horrible” commissioner. Cuban then spoke about how he wanted to buy the Texas Rangers when they were in the throes of bankruptcy and was denied by Selig. He then tried to purchase the Cubs and the Pirates. Denied and denied.  Why wouldn’t Bud Selig want Mark Cuban in the game?

Cuban said he heard that Selig was afraid “he would be another George Steinbrenner” spending lots of money and driving up player salaries and the fact that Cuban being the successful billionaire business man that he is was not going to take orders from a used car salesman, which brings me to my theory on why the Mets won’t raise payroll.

When Frank McCourt destroyed the Dodgers by taking all the teams profits to cover his lavish lifestyle, Gangster Bud did everything he could to get him out of the game. Selig knew McCourt was no use to him as he would not bow down to Emperor Bud. McCourt took MLB to court and fought tooth and nail to keep the Dodgers but between Selig and Jamie McCourt, Frank McCourt, as Mike Francesa would say “Came to wah wit a pee shootah” The Dodgers went bankrupt a bunch of hedgefund guys came in and bought the team for $2 billion dollars. Selig got his tribute and the price of MLB franchises all went up in value. Everybody wins.

That brings us to the Mets and the Wilpons. Fred Wilpon is a loyal solider of the Selig Army. Any other commissioner after the Madoff scandal would have told the Mets owners “you got to go”. How can a major professional sports team in NYC not have the capital to put a competitive team on the field? Any other commissioner would have brought in Wilpon and questioned him on how was he going to sustain his baseball team without all the ill-gotten gains that Bernie Madoff was supplying? Any other commissioner would have held the best interest of baseball clause over the Wilpon’s head giving them a time table to show that they still had the financial where with all to run the club. Ah but the Wilpon’s had something better for Selig, the chance to hold down salaries.

Knowing that the Wilpon’s were up shits creek without a paddle, Selig let it be known that he can save the owners from selling. He can arrange loans with banks that do business with MLB and for right now I can pass the hat around to the other owners for enough scratch to keep you going for a season or two but you have to get your payroll down into the bottom third of franchises for me to pull this off. How could the Wilpon’s say no?

The Wilpon’s are indebted to MLB and will not stray even under Commissioner elect Bob Manfred because even though Bud Selig is leaving as commissioner, he’s not going away and neither is the Mets $80 mil payroll.


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On the latest episode of Keane on Sports Podcast, my guest was Jeffery Radice, the producer/director of a documentary on the life of Dock Ellis titled NO NO: A Dockumentary. We discussed the film and Ellis and a lot of 1970’s baseball and life in America back in the 70’s.

I have seen the film and it is just fantastic.   From the clips of Ellis and the Pittsburgh Pirates in action, to the interviews with Ellis’s former teammates,  family and friends you find out there was much more to Dock Ellis than just the no hitter pitched while he was on acid and for wearing curlers in his hair on the field.

You can also download Keane on Sports on iTunes along with all of WBAR radio’s programing as well.


While we are on the movie front, Heather Quinlan needs a little more help in raising the $50K needed to fund her project “’86 Mets: The Movie. Please, please, please go to her kickstarter site and contribute what you can to this cause .


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Com’on Sandy, Fred and Jeffey Show me the way to a pennant contender!!!!!!


I see that yesterday’s post struck a chord with many readers and fellow Mets bloggers who have the same feelings I do. Some even thought that yesterday was a swan song for me and The Eddie Kranepool Society. That couldn’t be further from the truth. The site and I are going nowhere, just like the team, YUCK! YUCK! YUCK! But seriously I been through many tough season with this team and as I always say if June 15th 1977 didn’t send me to root for another baseball team, nothing will.

It seems that my feelings and the feeling of the readers of this site are not alone in wondering if this team is one or two players from being a contender. None other than Andy Martino wrote about this subject today. In fact this passage sums up my feelings and I bet yours too:

Granted, it is unfair to use a small sample from any season as the basis for generalizations, and we all know about the Mets’ impressive stable of top young pitchers. But another play-the-kids, wait-till-next-year, dreary denouement has arrived, and it is difficult to avoid the feeling that we have seen this movie before, every August for half a decade, and the story never pushes forward.

Exactly, the first two seasons of second half collapse to where “let’s play the kids” was what we wanted. So now we’ve seen the kids the past four seasons and some of them a very good and some of them are just fringe players. The time has come to get bonafided major league players on this roster.

I would love to see Starling Castro on the Mets next year. Same with Melky Cabrea or Michael Morse  ( I would think the odds of Morse leaving the Giants as slim. Players on the San Francisco Giants love playing for the San Francisco Giants   ) the time has come to fortify this team with veteran players who have proven themselves at the big league level. If I knew for a fact that the game plan going into the off season was just that, I’d be a much happier Mets fan, the problem I have is will Sandy Alderson make a trade where he feels he’s getting the talent he needs and knowingly give up similar talent in return or does he feel he needs to fleece his fellow GM’s ? Is he ok with dealing quality pitching for quality hitting or does he only want to deal a B or C level prospect for Giancarlo Stanton?

The same goes for ownership. If I knew that the Skill Sets plan of attack is to invest money to acquire major league talent I’d be writing more sunny posts on this site.  The problem is the track record of all the parties involve both would have change to become vastly more aggressive in the way they do business for this team to turn around.

A change in manager would be a bonus as I can’t see how Alderson or the Skill Sets can’t see that the manager’s voice has gone stale; he has lost the ability to motivate this team. He is starting with the “guys are tired” routine he breaks out every late August and September. That’s what separates the winners from the losers. There is a reason they call this part of the season the dog days, it’s here where you separated the good teams from the bad. You see what teams have the desire to win and those teams that are just punching a time clock. The Mets have been punching the time clock for too many years and that has led to losing season and to unenthusiastic mind set of the fan base.

If you haven’t watched a game from the Oakland Coliseum (I know it’s another name but I like Oakland Coliseum better) in a while and you are a fan of our old home Shea Stadium, you are in for a treat with this 2 game meeting with the A’s. The Coliseum is called a dump by many but the fan atmosphere is second to none. The fans bring in bed sheet banners, various noise makers like drums and horns and they root like hell for their A’s . I’m telling you its Shea Stadium West.


I would like to extend my heartfelt condolences to Bartolo Colon and his family on the passing of his mother yesterday in the Dominican Republic. I just hope that Bartolo arrived in the DR before his mom passed so he could say a final good-bye


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I’ve been writing on this blog for 13 years and for 9 of those years it’s been fun. I couldn’t wait to post something here and discuss the wins, loses, positive steps the organization was making and pointing out their failures. But as I said the last 4 years have been a chore to the point where I really, really have to be motivated to post anything here.

There are just so many anti-owner and fire the manager and cut this guy and sign this guy and lower your ticket prices posts you can do before you realize, what’s the point.

Of the 4 teams I root for in pro sports, it’s the NY Mets I love the most and the one that gives back to me the least.

Rooting for the NY Giants, NY Rangers and Boston Celtics can be a challenge as well at times, but with those three teams I know that each and every owner, GM and coach is committed to winning. Can I say that about the Mets? Sadly no.

Not one of those organizations would allow a coach to stay on for four seasons with not just losing records but without any positive progress either.



It’s not just the fact the Terry Collins will most likely stay on as manager, it’s also the lack of confidence I have that the front office and ownership will make changes to the roster and make this team into a contender. As much good work as Sandy Alderson has done building a solid foundation with the farm system and trading veterans for solid prospects, he hasn’t shown that he can make the baseball trade where he deals his young talent for another teams young talent.

The ownership puts its tap shoes on when the question of raising the payroll out the Oriental Avenue territory to at least Marvin Gardens. Jeffy and Fred give us the ol’ okey-doke like the Abbot and Costello gag about 13 X 7= 21. The Skill Sets get $30 mil off the previous year’s payroll and spend just $20 mil of that and tell us that the payroll for that year is up $20mil. When Sandy Alderson is asked about the other $10 mil he goes into lawyer speak and our eyes glaze over and our minds turn to mush to the point where we forget what the question was.

The lethargy is even spreading to the TV broadcast booth. Thankfully Keith Hernandez keeps on being Keith Hernandez but I get the sense that both Gary Cohen and Ron Darling are a bit burned out from the suckitude of that last few seasons. When it’s just Gary and Ron the energy drops a bit. That’s not a criticism because really who can blame them for not getting juiced about this listless bunch.










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